I referenced the 'missing' property in the scripting in the test for determining visibility as well.... didn't test putting
'false' in there directly.... I might try that later today.... I'll let you know!
-P
On 11/25/05, Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Peter Maas wrote:
> I'm fully aware of the introspection/reflection api's in the sdk, but
> this is not what I want, at least I hoped some support for
> OO/Inheritance would be availlable in JSF
You want to be able to handle someone providing an instance of a base
class when a particular subclass was really expected. That's not good OO
design, and not supporting it isn't a flaw in JSF in my opinion.
>
> in plain java the problem wouldn't even need reflection/introspection!
> I would be able to just use the instanceof operator in an if-statement
> and cast the object to the needed type
>
> in jstl this is also not a problem either:
>
> ${!empty bean.method }
>
> will not fail is the bean doesn't have the requested property, this
> counts as 'empty'
If so, I would regard that as very poor design in jstl. A method that
doesn't exist is not "empty"; it's an error. Any use of "instanceof" is
a warning sign of incorrect OO design.
I don't mean to be critical of your code; I'm just pointing out that JSF
not handling this elegantly isn't a problem with JSF as far as I am
concerned.
>
> So, in your opinion, the only way to solve this problem would be:
>
> write a custom component for rendering text which encapsulates the
> exeption thrown by invocating a non-existent method (or tests if the
> method is callable or not, which in most cases would be less
> efficient) ....?
>
Someone suggested earlier doing:
<h:outputText value="#{...}" rendered="#{.....}"/>
You indicated that this didn't work because the value _expression_ was
evaluated even when the rendered _expression_ was false.
I'm a bit surprised by that; I would have expected value to be ignored
when the component isn't rendered. Making this happen would also solve
your problem wouldn't it?
Does anyone know why the value would be evaluated when rendered is false?
Regards,
Simon
