@1: yes, I have sometimes thought about this as well - saying that a
certain part of the page is exempt from state saving might be nice.
There was this transient attribute once for components, but hasn't it
been deprecated?

@2: Yes, but there is always component binding for such things, right?

regards,

Martin

On 12/1/05, Yee CN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As a reference in ASP.NET state saving is always at the client - there is no
> option to save in server. Somehow M'soft managed to get the framework
> running at very decent speed. I am wondering whether we can achieve some of
> the efficiencies in ASP.NET.
>
> Some of the 'good' things that I observed are:
> - The viewstate of a component is not saved automatically, you need to
> configured explicitly whether a component is to participate in ViewState.
>
> - Value binding is not offered, which means component values are set
> programmatically. However it also means that programmer has much more
> control over the binding of data to the components. For example a dataTable
> will NOT be regenerated twice on every postback. In asp.net you can
> configure to save its viewstate and forget about it altogether until the
> user click something that requires refreshing the table data.
>
> I have contemplated forging value binding altogether and adopt a more
> ASP.NET style of doing JSF. I like to hear what you Guru have to say about
> it.
>
> Regards,
> Yee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Travis Reeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 1 December 2005 6:17 AM
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: Re: JSF flaw
>
> That is great to hear about the window id!  I brought this exact thing
> up a long time ago calling it windowScope or frameScope. It's one of
> those must have things like the back button support.
>
> Travis
>
> On 10/9/05, Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Just for anyone who might be interested, I was reading the JSF 1.2 spec
> > today, and it has created a thing called a "window id" in addition to a
> > "view id". This might be aimed at better support for exactly this sort
> > of problem. Of course that spec isn't finalised yet (nor implemented).
> >
> > Andrew robinson wrote:
> > > What is your state saving method? You probably have your state saved to
> > > the server, it will only remember the state from the last post, and
> > > therefore you will not be able to post from past pages. Best thing to do
> > > is set your state saving method to client.
> > >
> > > -Andrew
> > >
> > > On 10/9/05, *Dave* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >     Hello,
> > >     I have a problem with JSF which seems to be a JSF flaw. Any idea is
> > >     appreciated.
> > >
> > >     suppose I have JSF page A, when user click a link in page A, a page
> > >     B is opened in a new window. At this moment, the server side JSF
> > >     view root is page B. If user click submit button in page A, all form
> > >     data(not submitted yet) will be lost in page A because JSF think it
> > >     is an initial request and goes to render phase immediately(no model
> > >     update). From user's view, it is a post back to submit data.
> > >
> > >     Popping up a new window is very common . Any idea to solve this
> > >     problem? or It is JSF, no way.  Thanks!
> > >
> > >     Dave
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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