Yes. Exactly. That is my understanding of how it "should" work also.
John -----Original Message----- From: Simon Kitching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:48 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: Managed beans not being instantiated On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 16:26 -0800, John wrote: > I'm having incredible difficulty getting a managed bean to be > instantiated. > > -- I've gone to a very simple JavaBean for testing. > > -- The managed bean XML is in faces-config.xml > > -- I'm using Tobago > > -- I'm using Tomcat 5.9 embedded within our application. > > The beans constructor never gets called, although the JSF page > displays fine (except of course the beans values aren't displayed). > > No errors. A managed bean is only instantiated when some expression that refers to it is evaluated. If you have a bean "myBean", and the page you load doesn't refer to it, then the bean will not be created. If the page does refer to it (eg via "#{mybean.name}") and the bean can't be instantiated then a big exception will be thrown and you will *definitely* not get the JSF page displayed fine. Regards, Simon

