Considering that Tiles requires a lot of <verbatim> tags, facelets can
save a lot of time on templating capabilities alone. Defining your own
EL Functions can also save a lot of time instead of writing similar
methods on backing beans again and again.

I can't image using JSF without facelets.

-Andrew

On 6/5/06, Todd Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dave: Thank you.

I've been looking into Facelets. I have a decision to be made at this
point. I'm probably 20% done with the project at this point.

I know that doesn't seem like a lot, but I am weighing in if a change at
this point would benefit the entire project as a whole in terms of time.

As I've stated before, the biggest obstacle I've had is the lack of
MyFaces Tomahawk documentation.

Thus, I've been struggling trying to get small pieces done, such as
Tree2 and TreeTable - which I've had to piece together examples and
documentation.

Anyways, has Facelets saved you time in your projects? At this point,
time is at the essence.

Thanks,

--Todd

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Brondsema [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:05 PM
To: MyFaces Discussion
Subject: Re: Is there a MyFaces Tomahawk guide?


Facelets is something you would use in addition to MyFaces and Tomahawk,
if you're going to use it.  It replaces JSPs with XHTML files for your
view definitions, and provides some nice templating components.

Todd Patrick wrote:
> To continue, I've selected MyFaces and Tomahawk for a mission critical

> engineering project.
>
> I can say right now that I might need to look else where if
> documentation or a guide is lacking.
>
> I really can't spend a lot of time piecing together information when I

> know development needs to be done.
>
> I looked at Oracle ADF and they were too expensive. I might need to
> look at Facelets or Icefaces.
>
> MyFaces and Tomahawk really fits my needs, I'd really with there was
> better information.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Todd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 9:55 AM
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: RE: Is there a MyFaces Tomahawk guide?
>
> +1 on the documentation.  Having spent some time grokking MyFaces, I
> +can
> say that it's truly needed.  I'll help in any way that I can on such
> an effort.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Fri 6/2/2006 10:43 AM
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: Is there a MyFaces Tomahawk guide?
>
> I'd like to know if there is a MyFaces Tomahawk guide?
>
> The samples are ok, the Wiki lacks a lot of detail and the Javadocs
> can only do so much in terms of learning how to properly use the
components.
>
> This isn't negative, I'd just like to know if I'm missing something.
>
> MyFaces Tomahawk would be a lot more developer friendly if good
> documentation was available.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Todd
>


--
Dave Brondsema
Software Developer
Cornerstone University


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