Yes, if you need any 1.2 features. If you're ok with 1.1, then MyFaces... 

Frank Russo
Senior Developer
FX Alliance, LLC


-----Original Message-----
From: Cyrille37 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 7:34 AM
To: MyFaces Discussion
Subject: Re: JSF-RI, ADF, MyFaces, Facelets. I'm lost.

Frank Russo a écrit :
> The only input I'd like to add is that if you'd like to use any of the 1.2 
> features, then the Sun RI is your only option for now. MyFaces is working on 
> a 1.2 impl, but not sure when that will be complete. Maybe one of the devs 
> can give some insight.  
>
> Either way, the Tomahawk components work well with either impl. I'd also 
> recommend Facelets over JSPs for your view...
>   
Thanks,

If I well understand, you recommend to use : JSF Sun-RI + Apache Tomahaw 
components + Facelets, isn't it ?

cyrille
> Frank Russo
> Senior Developer
> FX Alliance, LLC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julian Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:42 AM
> To: 'MyFaces Discussion'
> Subject: RE: JSF-RI, ADF, MyFaces, Facelets. I'm lost.
>
> Our project started off using Suns Creator which is JSF-RI + a few additional 
> components. We quickly found the MyFaces + Tomahawk provides a much better 
> option and moved our entire project suite (6 apps) over to it. I purposfully 
> stayed away from ADF when making a choice as it still belonged to Oracle and 
> after spending 4 years banging against stupid Oracle bugs in my previous 
> company, I just didn't trust their quality control (I'm glad to see its now 
> open source). We did look at Tobago but didn't want to replace the view 
> controller and it seemed to have a small developer group.
>
> Here are a couple of key points to consider when making a selection: 
>
> [1] the learning curve is pretty steep in all JSF implementations and, in 
> some cases, the richer the component choice, the more learning needs to be 
> done and the less documentation is generally available. 
>
> [2] user-group support is *very* important. Both MyFaces and Sun have large 
> user bases and active user lists but perhaps its worth while spending a few 
> minutes browsing through the forums to get a feel for (a) the type of 
> problems user experience, (b) how helpful (and fast) is the user community in 
> reponding to questions, and (c) how reactive is the development team to 
> addressing Azissues?
>
> My money is firmly on MyFaces -- great support, great components and a great 
> product.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cosma Colanicchia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:15 AM
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: Re: JSF-RI, ADF, MyFaces, Facelets. I'm lost.
>
> They are not concurrents. MyFaces provides a JSF implementation (as the Sun 
> RI does), while ADF Faces/Trinidad is a library of components with some added 
> services. If you are talking about "MyFaces Tomahawk"
> , then yes, there is some overlap with Trinidad, but they are probably going 
> to be merged in future.
>
> Right now, you will have some troubles only using both Tomahawk and Trinidad. 
> For example Tomahawk components will not be aware of Trinidad skinning system 
> and of its client validation framework. I think that it is better to choose 
> one of the two until they'll be merged or refactored to work well togheter.
>
> Regards
> Cosma
>
>
> 2006/7/19, Cyrille37 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>   
>> ::SammyRulez:: a écrit :
>>     
>>> my choices
>>>
>>> myfaces + tomahawk component: all the gui you need
>>> facelets: decouple design and component
>>> ajaxanywhere: add some exotic behaviour non breaking jsf cycle
>>>       
>> Thank you very much for your comment.
>>
>> What about MyFaces and ADF ? They seem concurents, isn't it ? Why we 
>> should one or other ?
>>
>> cyrille.
>>
>>     
>>> Application Framework... I really don't need them.. I sense that 
>>> good design ad c couple of utility classes ca do anything you 
>>> need... IMHO
>>>
>>> 2006/7/19, Cyrille37 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>       
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> There are few projects around JSF that make me lost. I've to make a 
>>>> choice to start the study of a future project, it's time for me to 
>>>> select technologies.
>>>>
>>>> At first, I've to choice a Application Framework. Choices are 
>>>> Spring, Tapestry.
>>>> Then a GUI Framework. Here is my problem, JSF is in spotlight so 
>>>> looks to be a good choice, but there are several projects and I 
>>>> could not make my choice.
>>>>
>>>> Have you got an opinion which could light me ??
>>>> Thanks you very much.
>>>> cyrille.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>       
>>
>>     
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