when we solve problems there I usually recommend to write interesting 
points to the wiki... or to the mailing list...

on the ##jsf list we often discuss solutions in a implementation agnostic
way... and if someone wants to discuss something with the sun people directly
it's the place to be...

Alexander 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Matthias Wessendorf
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:23 PM
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: Re: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, 
> was "Re: question"
> 
> On 7/19/06, Cagatay Civici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The log is here;
> >
> > http://uwyn.com/drone
> >
> > Check out the ##jsf link.
> >
> > myfaces chat room is not logged.
> 
> that JSF thing I don't care about, to be honest.
> but the myfaces one... it is a no no to make technical 
> decissions there.
> 
> -Matt
> 
> >
> > Cagatay
> >
> >
> > On 7/19/06, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > IRC is interesting for getting people up to speed. But 
> IRC is not the
> > > tool that should be used for *technical decission* in 
> MyFaces. Same is
> > > true for Google Talk and other stuff.
> > >
> > > B/c where to look at the archives? It would be 
> interesting to *post*
> > > the IRC chat to this (user) list.
> > >
> > > -Matthias
> > >
> > > On 7/19/06, Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121)
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > In the chat it is easy to split of the discussion for a 
> foreign language
> > > > speaker in a private channel... Lately all of the 
> action is happening in
> > the
> > > > ##jsf channel (also MyFaces-stuff), therefor the 
> #myfaces-channel
> > > > is sometimes "reused" for foreign language discussions...
> > > > Or should I say: the ##jsf channel is the foreign 
> language channel? The
> > > > majority of the chatters seems to be not native-english!!! South
> > America,
> > > > Europe and neareast are ruling ;-)
> > > >
> > > > And there are often people around speaking exotic languages like
> > > > German, Spanish, Italian and others.
> > > >
> > > > It can help, at least, to formulate the question for 
> the mailing list,
> > > > but often the solution can also be found. The 
> disadvantage (at least for
> > the
> > > > #myfaces channel is, that no searchable log exists. 
> ##jsf is logged...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Infos about the chat-channels can be found on
> > <http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/ >,
> > > > scroll down (or search for "Talk, talk, talk").
> > > >
> > > > See you on chat...
> > > > Alexander
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Bruno Aranda [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:41 AM
> > > > > To: MyFaces Discussion
> > > > > Subject: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was
> > > > > "Re: question"
> > > > >
> > > > > From my personal experience is not that easy to find 
> someone speaking
> > > > > easy in places like Spain or South America. I do know 
> many cases of
> > > > > people not posting to the list due to the lack of 
> ability to explain
> > > > > its particular problem. Many of them try with 
> automatic translators,
> > > > > but the end message is not always easy to understand. 
> However, I do
> > > > > think that the language of this list should be 
> english, although this
> > > > > can be a limitation for a sensible part of developers 
> of the World.
> > > > > I do not know what is the official policy at the ASF, 
> and how other
> > > > > projects handle that. But couldn't exist alternative 
> mailing list to
> > > > > support other languages?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Bruno
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/19/06, Dhananjay Prasanna 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't think it's that hard to find someone who speaks
> > > > > english and ask them to translate for you.
> > > > > > It would be nice (not to mention much more useful) for
> > > > > everyone to be able to participate in whatever topic 
> you have going.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Dennis Byrne [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2006 3:59 PM
> > > > > > To: MyFaces Discussion
> > > > > > Subject: Re: question
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't mind non-English posts, many users simply don't
> > > > > speak English.  What I don't like is when people go off on
> > > > > some long discussion that has nothing to do with JSF 
> or MyFaces.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dennis Byrne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >From: Matthias Wessendorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 01:50 AM
> > > > > > >To: 'MyFaces Discussion'
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: question
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >personally I don't mind if you guys speak Spanish, but ...
> > > > > > >this forum should be open to a wide range of people.
> > > > > > >So english is strongly recommented.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Thanks!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >On 7/18/06, CD <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > > > >> Puedo hablarlo un poquito pero tienes que tener
> > > > > paciencia.  Que quieres
> > > > > > >> saber?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On 7/18/06, wdiaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > somebody Spanish speech?
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > soy nuevo en esto de tobago, y deseo obtener
> > > > > información para aprender
> > > > > > >> > el manejo
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >--
> > > > > > >Matthias Wessendorf
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> > > > > > >
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> Matthias Wessendorf
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