Hi, Well, I guess it is sad then if so much thought has been put into the spec. I don't understand why you take the RI as the ultimate R, it was written by mere mortals after all ;)
Never heard of "faces-trace", but yes it's a good idea for a program to stop executing after a fatal error instead of pretending it's not there. regards -----Original Message----- From: Martin Marinschek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:19 AM To: MyFaces Discussion; Cagatay Civici Subject: Re: swalled exception Hi Bolerio, I can tell you that a lot of thought has been put into devising the JSF-Spec - even more, sometimes I think that too much thought has caused some of the problems of the spec.... However, please check what the RI does in the same case (and I think I checked before and found out that it does) - If the same is done, this would point away from a programming mistake. My point remains - wouldn't this be a good addition to faces-trace? Having an EL-resolver, and maybe DefaultActionListenerImpl with a better error-handling? regards, Martin On 8/16/06, Iordanov, Borislav (GIC) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Martin, > > Mandated by the spec? Hmmm...don't know, I would agree that the JSF could have been designed with a bit more thoughtfulness, but this particular one looks just like a programming mistake. > > Best, > Bolerio > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Marinschek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wed 8/16/2006 10:47 AM > To: MyFaces Discussion > Subject: Re: swalled exception > > Interestingly enough, the RI does the same as we in the case of an > exception in the update model phase. I haven't checked with the spec > if this is mandated, but the JavaDoc indicate something in this > direction. > > I honestly don't like this myself. I wonder if faces-trace could be > extended to show exceptions like this on the page during development? > > regards, > > Martin > > On 8/16/06, Iordanov, Borislav (GIC) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As mentionned, time constraints prevented me from figuring out how to turn on logging, let alone submit a patch or even open a JIRA > > > > I wasn't asking for comment, but making one, and I also indicated a very specific case where the problem occurs, in the hope that it would be helpful. If it's not, than too bad. > > > > regards > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike Kienenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wed 8/16/2006 9:53 AM > > To: MyFaces Discussion > > Subject: Re: swalled exception > > > > Borislav, > > > > When you come across something like this, consider opening a JIRA > > issue and optionally attaching a patch to fix it. At minimum, you > > should include the stack trace or log message. Be aware that some > > behavior may be mandated by the JSF spec. > > > > In this particular case, there's not enough information to even > > comment on the specific problem. > > > > On 7/17/06, Iordanov, Borislav (GIC) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure there is a way to configure logging so that this doesn't happen, > > > but by default I notice tons of swallowed exceptions in MyFaces. The > > > resulting behavior obviously is that something doesn't work and there's no > > > indication why. Regardless of logging the error and of my not having spent a > > > few hours figuring out how to configure MyFaces logs, I think it is > > > unacceptable behavior for the application to continue to run after a fatal > > > error. An example of a fatal error is an NPE thrown from a property setter > > > during the "update model values" request processing phase. Such errors > > > should be propagated to the servlet container so that I can eventually see a > > > stack trace on my browser - very convenient during development. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Bolerio > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.irian.at > > Your JSF powerhouse - > JSF Consulting, Development and > Courses in English and German > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > -- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
