Hi Gerald

I'm not familiar with maven but it looks quit interesting and fit (I think so) 
exactly my needs. I will have a look at maven.

Regards
Matthias 

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Gerald Müllan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 15. September 2006 11:03
An: MyFaces Discussion
Betreff: Re: Re: Start project?

Ok, so then have a look at Exadel. You can create a skeleton jsf-web app at the 
beginning when starting with a new project.

And sure, it`s not a need to use all the tools coming with Exadel;

Just use the plain editors  :)

If you are a bit familiar with maven2 (to get the myfaces archetype this is 
also not a need) you can also have a look at:

http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/MyFaces_Archetypes_for_Maven

Here is described how to build a myfaces skeleton with maven2, without any 
burden of editors.

cheers,

Gerald

On 9/15/06, Mosimann Matthias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Gerald
>
> Let me rant a bit.
>
> Thank you for your answer. Well my personally prefered approach ist the 
> buttom up approach (study first the tecnical things up to klick-klick tools) 
> and not the top down approach (klick-klick tools to the tecnical things). It 
> was mostly the better choose.
>
> But some of the tools generate you some usefull project skeletons ... and 
> thats what I'm looking for in a first phase as a JSF beginner. I'm not 
> looking for a full gui support eclipse plugin, where I spend half of time 
> klick my application togehter (I do not say this is the absolutly worst way).
>
> In my personally view of JSF, this is one great goal of JSF, to have some 
> cool klick-klick tools that supports the developers to create a web 
> application with a gui.
>
> regards
> Matthias
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Gerald Müllan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. September 2006 10:42
> An: MyFaces Discussion
> Betreff: Re: Re: Start project?
>
> Hi,
>
> you can also use MyEclipse or Exadel, both have an license agreement where 
> you can develop with a good environment under a free license.
>
> However, it is not the most worse idea to learn JSF with the help of not too 
> many tools.
>
> cheer,
>
> Gerald
>
> On 9/14/06, Mosimann Matthias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi everyone
> >
> > I hope I don't bother you.
> >
> > So what is then you prefered development envirement? Eclipse don't have any 
> > support ... well it has but it is not working correct and the plugin is 
> > still in development. I'm interested using eclipse anyway. Should I start 
> > simply with a dynamic web project?
> >
> > Regards
> > Matthias
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Werner Punz
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. September 2006 18:00
> > An: [email protected]
> > Betreff: Re: Start project?
> >
> > Christoph Lassner schrieb:
> > > Yes, it is possible, but connected to quite some bits of work 
> > > (because u have to use other components, etc.). You should have a 
> > > closer look at the components you need and then decide for a 
> > > framework. However, like I said, if you really want to change your 
> > > framework in some time, it will be possible.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > Besides that there is an ongoing work to reduce the incompatibilities 
> > between the two codebases, in most cases it now should be possible to mix 
> > both component sets without too much problems.
> >
> > But you have to go for the nightly builds to be fully able to do it, the 
> > last stable versions still had major issues, which have been cleared up a 
> > few weeks ago.
> >
> >
>
>
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