Thanks for the pointer! JSF has been in development for more than 5 years now, and its integration with JSP was explicitly taken into account since the very beginning. Those are not minor incompatibilities, they are very close to show stoppers! And honestly, the fact that they are "well-known" and "discussed" doesn't make them any less serious and surprising (well, that's being polite - actually I find them ridiculous; I find it sad that, yet again as it so often happens in our industry, a company has enough power to practically impose technological standards, but then hires people with the wrong set of competencies to develop them).
Best, Bolerio PS I apologize for the rant. -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Byrne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 2:28 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: the sinful JSF in JSP Boris, don't let ideas like this influence your development. Despite a handful of well known incompatibilities [1], there is nothing wrong with writing applications where HTML, JSF, JSP, JSTL and servlets are mixed, just as there is nothing wrong with mixing JDBC and an ORM. I really wish so many folks in the JSF community hadn't promoted this idea. It has been my observation that most of these individuals fall into two categories. There are experts who oversold JSF. The rest are quite new to the field, and are eager to latch on to any kind of 'hard-and-fast' rule in response to so much complexity and confusion that comes w/ each new framework. Dennis Byrne [1] http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2004/06/09/jsf.html >-----Original Message----- >From: Iordanov, Borislav \(GIC\) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 02:00 PM >To: 'MyFaces Discussion' >Subject: the sinful JSF in JSP > >Guys, > >I know it's anathema to use JSF with JSPs, but since people have already >invested in JSP, it's kind of unavoidable. Also, the mixup of the two >technologies is promoted by the JSF spec team. > >Now, let's say I want to have a paragraph with text, where the text >comes from some managed bean. I do this: > ><p> ><h:outputText value="myBean.text"/> ></p> > >This doesn't work because the execution flow of the JSF model doesn't >correspond to the flow of source code in my JSP page. Is there a >standard way to overcome this problem? > >Thanks, >Bolerio >
