Cool. I'll take your input with me to the discussion. Thanks for all
the thoughts!
regards,
Martin
On 9/27/06, Shinpei Ohtani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
> All I need is JSP definetely dropped, and a decent exception handling
> mechanism! :D
Yeah, I agree with you, tetsuo.
We need good exception handling mechanism.
2006/9/27, tetsuo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> All I need is JSP definetely dropped, and a decent exception handling
> mechanism! :D
>
> Have fun, guys!
>
>
> On 9/26/06, Roger Keays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > One more:
> >
> > * New listener for FacesServlet startup/shutdown. Some JSF
> > extensions may need to do some initial configuration on startup and
> > shutdown but these extensions can't add a ServletContextListener to
> > web.xml. ATM you can get similar behaviour by using a PhaseListener and
> > deregistering it after it is first run, but that is just a workaround
> > really.
> >
> > Roger Keays wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Martin,
> > >
> > > Here are a couple of ideas I've jotted down:
> > >
> > > * Native support for conversation scope.
> > >
> > > * Support for partial requests (i.e. AJAX). I imagine this would be
> > > along the lines of standardising the request and response formats for
> > > partial requests, and requiring a javascript implementation.
> > >
> > > * Ability to invoke actions on first page request. When you're linked
> > > from other sites, or from a mail client you can't really expect them to
> > > send the whole state of the component tree, which would be needed to
> > > invoke an action from that tree (although this does work). Instead, you
> > > might be able to create a new action listener type which is invoked when
> > > the tree it is attached to is created/rendered. Of course, it'd have to
> > > fit into the lifecycle somehow. A simple use case for this would be a
> > > "click here to vote for struts" link in an email which should invoke a
> > > JSF Action{Listener}. Currently you'd probably do this with a
> > > PhaseListener or ServletFilter.
> > >
> > > * Ability to define converters for annotated classes (e.g. @Entity).
> > > We can do <converter-for-class>, which also works for interfaces, but
> > > there are cases where an annotation might indicate that a common
> > > converter could be used. In the case of @Entity, you might be able to
> > > use something like EntityManager.getId(entity).toString() to convert the
> > > class (somebody add getId() to JPA 1.1 please!).
> > >
> > > * Ability to use #{foo} as an lvalue. Maybe more specific to the EL
> > > spec, but ATM only #{foo.bar} can be used as an lvalue. Sometimes I just
> > > want to keep a simple string in the session scope and do things like
> > > <h:inputText value="#{foo}"/>, but instead I have to make a separate
> > > bean just containing a String.
> > >
> > > * Reinvestigate, as per Jabob's ideas, whether we /really/ need
> > > component state-saving. I got pretty confused when I wrote a simple
> > > regexp validator that kept forgetting what the regexp was. It was all
> > > there in the .xhtml file! That was until I learnt about state-saving
> > > (which was more than I really wanted to know).
> > >
> > > * Dump JSP, and make facelets standard.
> > >
> > > Happy Oktoberfest!
> > >
> > > Roger
> > >
> > >
> > > Martin Marinschek wrote:
> > >> Hi there,
> > >>
> > >> Ed Burns, Jesse Alexander and me will be heading a discussion on what
> > >> our users dreamed JSF 2.0 would be like - on friday, 2006/09/29, in
> > >> Munich, at the Oktoberfest.
> > >>
> > >> So it's a good opportunity for both talking about JSF and drinking
> > >> beer - probably the best of the world. We'll meet up in:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.weisses-brauhaus.de/
> > >>
> > >> at 18:00
> > >>
> > >> and if you're interested in coming, reply to this mail and I'll
> > >> include you in the reservation.
> > >>
> > >> regards,
> > >>
> > >> Martin
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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