I'm quite sure it is in the spec though I don't remember quite where for the moment.

Don't forget that the official javadoc is also considered part of the spec. This was a bad decision IMO, but that's the way Sun sees it.

The javadoc for Renderer.encodeBegin says clearly that if conversion fails then submittedValue should be used:
 http://java.sun.com/javaee/javaserverfaces/1.1_01/docs/api/index.html

I don't know exactly where it says that if any FacesMessages are registered then use the converted value, but I'm sure it's there somewhere.

Regards,

Simn


Martin Marinschek wrote:
I would have thought the information is in the spec - if it is not, it
should be added, yes. Could you possibly file a spec clarification
issue?

regards,

Martin

On 4/2/07, Mike Kienenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm not sure where it's documented.   Here's a couple more places to
look, although I didn't see it here.

http://java.sun.com/javaee/javaserverfaces/1.1_01/docs/api/

Another authoritative source of information is the renderkitdocs.

http://java.sun.com/javaee/javaserverfaces/1.1/docs/renderkitdocs/

Try looking for UIInput or EditableValueHolder.

On 4/2/07, Mike Quilleash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks, just the answer I wanted!
>
> I couldn't see this information explicitly in the spec anywhere, might
> be worth a clarification if I didn't miss anything.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Mike.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Kienenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 02 April 2007 15:43
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: Re: Saving component submitted values
>
> When rendering, the submitted value is used if non-null.
> Then the local value is used if it is set on the component.
> Then the backing bean model value is used.
>
>
> On 4/2/07, Mike Quilleash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My question put simply is: Does the value of submittedValue on a
> > UIInput/EditableValueHolder take precedence over the an actual value
> > when it comes to rendering the component?
> >
> >
> > Background:
> >
> > I've been trying to find a way to save component values between
> redirects.
> > I have a form with 2 input controls, one is a h:inputText the other a
> > custom component.  The custom component is a disabled input text
> > paired with a custom immediate command button.  The button takes the
> > user to another view where they can search and select an entity, click
>
> > ok and get redirected back to form page with the disabled input text
> > filled in.  This is all ok and works correctly.
> >
> > The problem I have is other components' values in the form (like the
> > h:inputText in the example) will not be saved by default as I am not
> > doing a postback (and may not be valid yet).  So I'm wondering if the
> > following may work.
> >
> > 1) User enters (possibly invalid) value into the h:inputText.
> > 2) User clicked button.
> > 3) Submitted values (if present) of all components in the form are
> > saved (custom code).
> > 4) Redirect to other page.
> > 5) User makes selection on another page.
> > 6) Redirect back to form page.
> > 7) Submitted values restored to the form (custom code).
> > 8) View renders.
> >
> > I'm not sure in 8 whether the submitted value will be used or the
> > actual value (which is probably still null).  The JSF spec doesn't
> > make it clear whether the submitted value takes precedence for
> rendering if it is set.
> >
> > Any help or suggestions appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Mike.
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