Hi Scott, sorry for the late response - I've been on vacation the last week. Yeah, your proposal seems definitely interesting. The bridge could certainly be a sub-project of MyFaces.
I was thinking about why PPR wouldn't be supported in a portlet environment - is that due to the fact that the portlet server itself would need to know about PPR, and so it is entirely impossible to do this in portlet servers? I envision it might be possible to have the client-side AJAX library post back to a servlet instead of the portlet - would that be possible or not, wdyt? regards, Martin On 6/8/07, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+1 perhaps we can make 1.2 to trunk as well. the current 1.1 has the "build-in" bridge, which is fine w/ me, since not backed by an official paper -M On 6/8/07, Thomas Spiegl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > setting up a new sub project for an implementation of JSR-301 is > definitely a good idea. I think we should start a discussion at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On 6/7/07, Scott O'Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So... What are the next steps for this? Much debate and voting? > > > > :) > > > > Scott > > Scott O'Bryan wrote: > > > I'm totally cool with that and I'm pretty sure the EG would be fine > > > with that as well. We just can't do things the same way as we did the > > > old bridge. > > > > > > Also, JSR-301 has 1.2 as it's minimum Faces version, so I imagine this > > > could become the bridge implementation for MyFaces' 1.2 implementation > > > since I'm not sure much work was done with the existing bridge on it. > > > > > > I believe Stan Silvert would also be interested in working on this as > > > well. He's currently on the 301 EG as well and wrote the existing > > > MyFaces bridge. > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > Matthias Wessendorf wrote: > > >> Well, > > >> > > >> things like tomahawk, tobago and trinidad are also able to run w/o > > >> MyFaces core. > > >> So why not making the bridge an own subproject? > > >> > > >> -M > > >> > > >> On 6/7/07, Scott O'Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> That's certainly an option except that the Bridge in MyFaces is > > >>> distributed with MyFaces project. Right now the work that I have time > > >>> for will be needed for an R.I. This means it'll need to be able to be > > >>> distributed independently. That being said, I'm all ok with getting it > > >>> developed as part of MyFaces... > > >>> > > >>> Scott > > >>> > > >>> Matthias Wessendorf wrote: > > >>> > Scott, > > >>> > > > >>> > since we have already a protlet bridge here in MyFaces, why not > > >>> making > > >>> > it a "301 bridge"? > > >>> > > > >>> > -Matthias > > >>> > > > >>> > On 6/6/07, Scott O'Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> >> Hey Martin, > > >>> >> > > >>> >> I am sort of scanning the list but the past few weeks have been > > >>> spotty. > > >>> >> I'll post back to the list. :) To answer your question, > > >>> documentation > > >>> >> is totally not there since most of the work I did for Trinidad was > > >>> >> running only in a "Proof of Concept" environment similar to the > > >>> bridge > > >>> >> that will be provided for JSR-301. I don't think this work > > >>> currently > > >>> >> works with the existing MyFaces bridge. > > >>> >> > > >>> >> In this proof-of-concept, trinidad works with the following > > >>> limitations: > > >>> >> > > >>> >> 1. Some of the popup support does not work. I had a JIRA ticket > > >>> on this > > >>> >> when Trinidad was in incubator but I haven't checked to see if it's > > >>> >> still there. I'll check it out. > > >>> >> 2. The javascript libraries are not namespaced meaning two trinidad > > >>> >> portlets on the screen at the same time may conflict. Again, I > > >>> had a > > >>> >> JIRA ticket on this and I'll check the current status. > > >>> >> 3. PPR in Trinidad has been disabled in a portal environment. > > >>> Things > > >>> >> that would normally do a ppr, will do a full-page submit instead > > >>> >> > > >>> >> Other then that, everything including FileUploads should work. > > >>> >> > > >>> >> Now I notices in the past month or so there has been much > > >>> interest in > > >>> >> fully supporting Trinidad in a Portlet environment. It's almost > > >>> there > > >>> >> but the biggest hurdle we have is the lack of a JSR-301 compliant > > >>> bridge > > >>> >> (or something that comes close). Some of the preliminary drafts > > >>> of the > > >>> >> spec have been released, but the Project is still looking for a > > >>> home to > > >>> >> host its R.I. Is this something people would be interrested in > > >>> doing as > > >>> >> part of MyFaces or the Bridges project? If so, how do we start the > > >>> >> process? > > >>> >> > > >>> >> Scott O'Bryan > > >>> >> > > >>> >> Martin Marinschek wrote: > > >>> >> > Hi Scott, > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > a while ago, I sent the inlined mail to the MyFaces user list - > > >>> I'm > > >>> >> > sending it to you personally now, as I thought that maybe you > > >>> are not > > >>> >> > scanning the list, and therefore missed it. I don't want to > > >>> bother you > > >>> >> > too much - but even a small pointer to any documentation on > > >>> this would > > >>> >> > be very helpful... > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > regards, > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > Martin > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > ------------- > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > Hi *, > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > I have skimmed through the online documentation for Trinidad, but > > >>> >> > haven't found anything useful about portlet compatibility. Is > > >>> there > > >>> >> > anyone in the Trinidad team who knows more about using portlets > > >>> with > > >>> >> > Trinidad, and can provide a link to more information? > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > Especially I would be interested in: > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > - file-upload - how's that handled in portlets? > > >>> >> > - including the script/style-elements in the header of the page > > >>> >> > (obviously, tr:document won't help in a portlet environment, > > >>> right?) > > >>> >> > - serving out resources with the resources servlet/filter (it's > > >>> clear > > >>> >> > that neither one will work in a portlet environment) > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > I've heard about some jsf-portlet-bridge helping out here, but > > >>> that's > > >>> >> > RI, right? > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > regards, > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > Martin > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.irian.at > > Your JSF powerhouse - > JSF Consulting, Development and > Courses in English and German > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
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