Well I had the impression that the pure XML-handling was a killer on the solaris box. As with JSF: most processing power is used in the jsp-rendering. I don't know whether jsp-precompiling might work or be usefull, I never tried. I the meantime I moved to facelets, which accelerates everything... even though it uses a SayCompiler, but it seems that Compiler is blindingly fast... regards Alexander
________________________________ From: Martin Denham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 5:46 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: 4 second page response time Hi Jesse, I thought the ContextLoaderListener would just be called once on startup. Does it do something on every request? Martin On 24/07/07, Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I remember that long time ago I did a comparision for the same reason... and we found out, that the xml-processing on the solaris box was WAY slower than on the Win-Box. We never really found out why, though... regards Alexander ________________________________ From: Martin Denham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 4:48 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: 4 second page response time Thanks for the tips but our sys admins weren't keen on doing a kill and because I only get performance problems on the central Solaris server it was tricky to follow your advice. I checked for missing tld/xsd warnings and we aren't getting any even though, as you guessed, the Solaris server does not have internet access. However, I have managed to find another of our jsf applications which did not have the 4/8 second page response delay and so I slowly migrated this to be more like the troublesome application. The main problem occurs when I include <listener> <listener-class> org.springframework.web.context.ContextLoaderListener </listener-class> </listener> in web.xml. Yes, the problem also occurs if I use ContextLoaderServlet too. After including ContextLoaderListener performance deteriorates considerably from 2 second response to more than 4 even if I don't load any spring contexts. Has anybody any idea why ContextLoaderListener slows down my application running on Weblogic 8.1 on Solaris? Many thanks. Martin On 23/07/07, David Delbecq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: En l'instant précis du 20/07/07 15:02, Martin Denham s'exprimait en ces termes: > I have had a performance issue with both the JSF applications I have > written. > > On my windows xp development pc responses are instant. However when > deployed to a Sun Ultra 80 Solaris machine every page takes 4 seconds > and if I add a redirect the response time increases to 7 seconds. > Another application on the same Solaris machine, but written using > Struts has instant page response times. > > Is a simple page response time of 4 seconds expected when using JSF? > I have tried all sorts of tweaks during the past year but the response > time is unaffected. Simple answere: no. I will have to profile your application to find out where your CPU bottleneck (if it's a CPU bottleneck) is, or where your network bottleneck is. Because JSF uses value binding which can do lots of things, any badly written/badly used bean can be at cause (like a bean loading 50.000 items for a database at each request). Simple suggestion: when you load a JSF page, go in a console to your solaris station and run a kill -3 <JVMpid>, this will dump to the jvm's stdout a stacktrace of all running threads. From there you could see where the code is waiting / busy. could it be some xml parser uses a xsd/dtd which is not available. If production server is firewalled, maybe the server is just trying to download the schema/dtd and finishes on a timeout of approx 4 seconds? > > I am using Myfaces & tomahawk 1.1.5, Weblogic 8.1sp4, Facelets > 1.1.12. One application uses Oracle ADF and the other Ajax4Jsf/Richfaces. > > Thanks in advance for any pointers. > > Martin > > -- http://www.noooxml.org/

