Oups, my bad, I should have checked. I guess it's time for me to make myself
a bit more useful since I play with skin on daily basis...

On 8/9/07, Adam Winer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ... but unfortunately, navigationPane is specifically not
> documented there.  I cleaned up a lot of the skin selectors
> doc, but it would be great for someone to take on that
> remaining task (hint, hint, committers) :)
>
> -- Adam
>
>
> On 8/9/07, Simon Lessard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello again Dunia,
> >
> > You can find the selector list at
> > http://myfaces.apache.org/trinidad/skin-selectors.html.
> > Also, you can always check what selectors are being rendered on the
> client
> > with the help of Firebug (for Firefox browser). Also, if you don't want
> the
> > selector names to be compressed (making them very hard to identify), add
> the
> > following context param to your web.xml file:
> >
> >     <context-param>
> >       <param-name>
> > org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.DISABLE_CONTENT_COMPRESSION
> </param-name>
> >       <param-value>true</param-value>
> >     </context-param>
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > ~ Simon
> >
> >
> > On 8/9/07, Azim, Dunia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Simon, thanks a lot for your extensive comments!
> > > So best practice seems to be customizing the respective
> af|navigationpane
> > selectors and using my own selectors only where there are no defaults.
> The
> > difficulty with that approach is, that I can't find any specification
> for
> > the navigationpane selector and its subkeys, and respectively for the
> > commandNavigationItem, neither at the Trinidad nor at the Oracle
> website.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have an idea where to find such a documentation? Or at
> least,
> > where I can find those base-desktop.xss and simple-desktop.xss
> > (minimal-desktop.xss) files, which where occasionally mentioned in the
> > mailing list? I'm working with Trinidad 1.2 .
> > >
> > > best regards,
> > > Dunia
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> >  Von: Simon Lessard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. August 2007 18:19
> > > An: MyFaces Discussion
> > > Betreff: Re: [Trinidad] using a custom skin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Dunia,
> > >
> > > See my comments below.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > ~ Simon
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/9/07, Azim, Dunia <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi there,
> > > >
> > > > is there any reliable documentation or complete example on how to
> > implement Trinidad Skins?
> > > > After going through all documentation on
> > http://myfaces.apache.org/trinidad/release.html
> >  (Skin Selector Keys and Converting from ADF to Trinidad)
> > and studying the Demo-Examples, we neither find a way how to have a
> custom
> > skin rendered, nor which default selector could be customized for e.g. a
> > commandNavigationItem component. Creating a custom class, there is
> always
> > some default overriding the custom selector.
> > >
> > >
> > > It's true that we need more skinning documentation.
> > >
> > >
> > > > It would be great, if somebody could review the
> > following code snippets, to give us a hint, what's going wrong or
> lacking.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot!
> > > >
> > > > => We tried with just one selector class, putting "-tr-inhibit: all"
> at
> > the beginning, but font-size and -weight are not recognized.
> > > >
> > > > So our desktopSkin.css looks like:
> > > >
> > > > .mainNavigationBar {
> > > >         -tr-inhibit: all;
> > > >         font-family : verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
> > > >         font-size: 18px;
> > > >         font-weight: bold;
> > > >         padding: 6px;
> > > >         color: #000000;
> > > >         background-color:lightgrey;
> > > > }
> > >
> > >
> > > -tr-inhibit removes inherited properties. Since mainNavigationBar is
> not a
> > known selector it won't inherit any properties and thus -tr-inhibit
> won't do
> > anything. For navigationPane component, the valid selectors start with
> > af|navigationPane.
> > >
> > >
> > > > The trinidad-config.xml :
> > > > <trinidad-config xmlns="
> > http://myfaces.apache.org/trinidad/config";>
> > > >   <debug-output>true</debug-output>
> > > >   <skin-family>prostep</skin-family>
> > > >   or:
> > > >   <skin-family>#{sessionScope.skinFamily }</skin-family>
> > > > ...
> > >
> > >
> > > This is good.
> > >
> > >
> > > > The trinidad-skins.xml :
> > > > <skins xmlns="
> > http://myfaces.apache.org/trinidad/skin";>
> > > >   <skin>
> > > >     <id>prostep.desktop</id>
> > > >     <family>prostep</family>
> > > >     <!-- <extends> minimal.desktop</extends>  -->
> > > >
> > <render-kit-id>org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.desktop</render-kit-id>
> > > >
> > <style-sheet-name>skins/desktopSkin.css</style-sheet-name>
> > > >   </skin>
> > > > </skins>
> > >
> > >
> > > Good here as well.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Source code of our MainNavigation.jspx which is to
> > implement the style:
> > > >
> > > > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" standalone="yes" ?>
> > > > <jsp:root xmlns:jsp=" http://java.sun.com/JSP/Page"; version="2.0"
> > > >         xmlns:f="http://java.sun.com/jsf/core";
> > > >         xmlns:h=" http://java.sun.com/jsf/html";
> > > >
> > xmlns:trh="http://myfaces.apache.org/trinidad/html
> > "
> > > >         xmlns:tr="
> > http://myfaces.apache.org/trinidad";>
> > > >         <jsp:directive.page
> > contentType="text/html;charset=utf-8" />
> > > >   <f:view>
> > > >         <trh:html>
> > > >         <trh:head title="Skin Demo">
> > > >                   <!--
> > > >         <link rel="stylesheet" charset="UTF-8" type="text/css"
> > > >
> > href="/WebTest1/adf/styles/cache/desktopSkin.css"/>
> > > >
> > href="/WebTest1/faces/skins/desktopSkin.css"
> > > >
> > href="/faces/skins/desktopSkin.css"
> > > >
> > href="/WebTest1/skins/desktopSkin.css"
> > > >
> > href="WebTest1/skins/desktopSkin.css"
> > > >                         href="skins/desktopSkin.css"
> > > >                         href="/skins/desktopSkin.css"
> > > >                   -->
> > >
> > >
> > > You don't have to link to the CSS if you use either trh:head or
> > tr:document which is your case here.
> > >
> > >
> > > >   </trh:head>
> > > >   <trh:body>
> > > >         <tr:navigationPane hint="bar" id="mainNavigation"
> > styleClass="mainNavigationBar">
> > > >                 <tr:commandNavigationItem
> > text="Upload"></tr:commandNavigationItem>
> > > >                 <tr:commandNavigationItem text="New
> > Items"></tr:commandNavigationItem>
> > > >                 <tr:commandNavigationItem
> > text="Webspaces"
> > styleClass="mainNavigationBar"></tr:commandNavigationItem>
> > > > ...
> > >
> > >
> > > You don't have to set the style class if you use the good selectors
> > (af|navigationPane in that case)
> > >
> > >
> > > > => instead of the <trh:head> and <trh:body> we tried with a
> > <tr:document> tag, but neither it worked.
> > > > =>  What about the <link> tag in the code above?
> > >
> > >
> > > Not needed.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Do we have to include the stylesheet file at all? If YES, what's the
> > correct uri?
> > >
> > >
> > > No.
> > >
> > >
> > > > => It doesn't seem to be necessary, as the source code
> > in Mozilla either way shows something like: <link rel="stylesheet"
> > charset="UTF-8" type="text/css"
> > href="/WebTest1/adf/styles/cache/prostep-
> > desktop-1120493713-gecko-cmp.css;jsessionid=...">
> > > > => further within the commandNavigationItem's element tag the
> browser
> > reads:  class="mainNavigationBar
> > af_navigationPane_bar-inactive-enabled" ... => What does
> > that mean?
> > >
> > >
> > > This mean that the skin selector that was used was
> > af|navigationPane::bar-inactive-enabled for the item and
> > also included the style class that you defined in the page, i.e.
> > mainNavigationBar.
> > >
> > > > MainNavigation.jspx is addressed from a
> > frameBorderLayout:
> > > >
> > > > <f:facet name="center">
> > > >         <trh:frameBorderLayout width="80%" height="80pt">
> > > >                 <f:facet name="top">
> > > >                         <trh:frame
> > source="/MainNavigation.jspx" width="100%" height="40pt" scrolling="no"
> > marginHeight="0" marginWidth="0"></trh:frame>
> > > >                 </f:facet>
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, lots of questions. But at least getting some precise hints on
> the
> > basics would be really great.
> > > > Dunia Azim
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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