Tobias,

Well, I won't say Trinidad's is better, just different because they are intended on supporting different issues. Trinidad is able to get more flexibility because AJAX is built in, but AJAX4JSF is intended to allow a non-ajax renderkit to have ajax and does a really good job of supporting this. If using an ajax renderkit, there is no technical reason to look at AJAX4JSF.

Now that said, if you absolutely must, you'll have no choice but to use one or the other and submit bugs for anything you find. What this means is, you'll want to use AJAX4JSF's ajax with NONE of the Trinidad. Either to the AJAX4JSF project or to Trinidad. This is going to be a slippery slope though because I don't think that there is a huge push to get them to work together and unless something is technically wrong from a JSF perspective. But who knows.

As for solutions to the submit on every request issue, you can add a partial target for the component you want to update on the Java side. It's not clean, but it would probably work. You might also try generating an ER..

Scott

Tobias Kilian wrote:
Scott O'Bryan schrieb:
Tobias,

These mechanism's are not compatible. They are, essentially, two different AJAX mechanisms. Do you mind me asking what AJAX4JSF provides that Trinidad doesn't out of the box? In other words, why is Trinidad's AJAX mechanism not sufficient.
Hi Scott!

I think the Trinidad approach is better, because only the listener has to know the event source and not vice versa. But I am tempted (and ordered by my boss) to use richfaces wherever possible - it seems to be a more monolithic system and looks nicer without having to fight with all those css. The other thing is i really need a tag like I described which updates on every request and couldnt find it in Trinidad.

Greetings,
Tobias Kilian

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AJAX4JSF is intended to make a non-ajax enabled renderkit work like an ajax enabled one and it seems unnecessarily complex if your renderkit is ajax-enabled to begin with.

Scott

Tobias Kilian wrote:
Hi All!

I want to use Trinidad together with ajax4jsf (richfaces), and have problems using the two different ppr-mechanisms together. Trinidad uses the attribute partialTriggers="list of components, whose events update this component"
while a4j uses reRender="list of components to update on this.Event"
These seem to be contrairy mechanisms and im sure they both have been discussed long before I got to know jsf.

However the question is, how can they be used together? AFAIK i can neither have a trinidad component be a listener for an a4j component nor let an a4j component reRender a trinidad component.

Another thing is i have a tr:messages wich i want to be updated on every ajax request. Is there any component to realize auto-update on every ppr-request? In a4j there is <a4j:outputPanel ajaxRendered="true"> which does exactly what i want, but - same as above - only for requests originating from a4j components.

Thanks for any light on this,
Tobias Kilian





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