We are more and more switching to jsf and tomahawk here, The stuff rocks :)

On Nov 29, 2007 8:40 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 29, 2007 7:57 AM, Ron Smits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > We use Tomahawk a lot in several projects. I would not like to see
> > tomahawk getting swallowed up in trinidad. Each has its place. I would
> > prefer to seem the stay the way they are.
>
> Putting them on-top of Trinidad is only one option.
> IMO the commons project will help alot and keeping Tomahawk separate
> might be a valid option too.
>
> I know that there are several projects that use them, and that like them.
> Sometimes you hear noise, but you know, you complain vs. 99 good feedbacks,
> the complain is what people outside remember... :-)
>
>
> >
> > It might be good though to maybe find more developers to keep the
> > versions working and in sync with eachother. Shout if you need some
> > help.
>
> you are more than welcome!
> -M
>
>
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
> > On Nov 28, 2007 10:35 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Nov 28, 2007 10:20 PM, Philippe Lamote <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hi List,
> > > >
> > > > Over the last half year, it seems Tomahawk, despite some fine
> > > > components, is dead; the 2.0 release hasn't gotten off the ground for
> > > > al these months, and no one seems  to be actively developing it.
> > > > Trinidad on the other hand seems to acquire more and more momentum.
> > >
> > > it looks like, more and more questions on Trinidad are asked on the lists,
> > > that is true. I'd not say that Tomahawk is dead; I think there are some 
> > > known
> > > issues and work arounds for that (using it w/ myfaces 1.1.x).
> > > I know people use it and works fine.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Now, as Tomahawk has some really cool components Trinidada doesn't
> > > > have, and while there is for sure an overlap between the two, are
> > > > there any plans for getting rid of this project clutter and unifying
> > > > these two project lines, resulting in a focussed approach?
> > >
> > > You are right, when you say that Tomahawk has interesting components,
> > > that aren't available inside of Trinidad. But I'd not say, that Trinidad 
> > > is not
> > > cool.
> > >
> > > > It is my feeling the current approach hurts the MF project. There
> > > > already was quite some comment on TSS on the fact MF was really late
> > >
> > > Yes, there were some comments, but there will always comments on almost
> > > every project :-)
> > >
> > > > in implementing the 1.2 spec(I know, not only for tech reasons), but
> > > > that's not the only problem: there are all these subprojects (what to
> > > > advise to newbies? I really couldn't tell) and if you happen to
> > > > combine Facelets + MF 1.2 + Tomahawk, you're in for a debugging fest!
> > > > The list of issues seems endless. It's no fun anymore.
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, in the view of the upcoming hackatron event in december,
> > > > could we share, here, some ideas/thoughts on possible/preferable
> > > > roapdmaps? I'd love to see
> > > > - a short term plan to address the Tomahawk 2.0 release
> > > > - a mid/long term plan to reduce project clutter (converge the
> > > > sublines!) We can move much faster and better, if focussed.
> > >
> > > Regarding a Tomahawk 2.0 release (or project) I'd love to see it on-top 
> > > of the
> > > Trinidad API / Framework (in JSF-version 1.2)
> > >
> > > Like pick the "good" / "cool" Tomahawk components, and put them into 
> > > Trinidad.
> > > That needs some work, sure.
> > > Willing to help ?
> > >
> > > -Matthias
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > -Wolf
> > > >
> > > > (Ps I'm not pointing fingers here - I'm just genuinly concerned and
> > > > wondering how we could better pick things up from here)
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Matthias Wessendorf
> > >
> > > further stuff:
> > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> > > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> > > mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > I reject your reality and substitute my own
> >    --- Adam Savage, the mythbusters
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> further stuff:
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> mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
>



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