I am not sure if this will help you, but here is my web.xml from a
dead project I was working on that was
Seam/Facelets/Tomahawn/Trinidad:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<web-app
  version="2.5"
  xmlns="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee";
  xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";
  xsi:schemaLocation="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee
http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee/web-app_2_5.xsd";>
  <display-name>christws-web</display-name>
  <context-param>
    <param-name>org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.CLIENT_STATE_METHOD</param-name>
    <param-value>all</param-value>
  </context-param>
  <context-param>
    <param-name>org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.CACHE_VIEW_ROOT</param-name>
    <param-value>false</param-value>
  </context-param>
  <context-param>
    
<param-name>org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.USE_APPLICATION_VIEW_CACHE</param-name>
    <param-value>false</param-value>
  </context-param>
  <context-param>
    <param-name>org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.ALTERNATE_VIEW_HANDLER</param-name>
    <param-value>com.christws.faces.CustomViewHandler</param-value>
  </context-param>
  <context-param>
    <param-name>javax.faces.STATE_SAVING_METHOD</param-name>
    <param-value>client</param-value>
  </context-param>
  <context-param>
    <param-name>javax.faces.DEFAULT_SUFFIX</param-name>
    <param-value>.xhtml</param-value>
  </context-param>
  <context-param>
    <param-name>org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.DEBUG_JAVASCRIPT</param-name>
    <param-value>true</param-value>
  </context-param>
  <context-param>
    
<param-name>org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.DISABLE_CONTENT_COMPRESSION</param-name>
    <param-value>true</param-value>
  </context-param>
  <context-param>
    
<param-name>org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.ENABLE_LIGHTWEIGHT_DIALOGS</param-name>
    <param-value>true</param-value>
  </context-param>
  <context-param>
    <param-name>facelets.LIBRARIES</param-name>
    <param-value>
      /WEB-INF/tomahawk.taglib.xml;
      /WEB-INF/tomahawk-sandbox.taglib.xml
    </param-value>
  </context-param>
  <context-param>
    <param-name>facelets.SKIP_COMMENTS</param-name>
    <param-value>true</param-value>
  </context-param>
  <context-param>
    <param-name>facelets.DEVELOPMENT</param-name>
    <param-value>true</param-value>
  </context-param>
  <context-param>
    <param-name>com.christws.VIEWS_CONFIGURATION</param-name>
    <param-value>/WEB-INF/views.xml</param-value>
  </context-param>
  <filter>
    <filter-name>trinidad</filter-name>
    
<filter-class>org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.webapp.TrinidadFilter</filter-class>
  </filter>
  <filter-mapping>
    <filter-name>trinidad</filter-name>
    <servlet-name>Faces Servlet</servlet-name>
    <dispatcher>REQUEST</dispatcher>
    <dispatcher>FORWARD</dispatcher>
    <dispatcher>INCLUDE</dispatcher>
  </filter-mapping>
  <filter>
    <filter-name>Seam Filter</filter-name>
    <filter-class>org.jboss.seam.servlet.SeamFilter</filter-class>
  </filter>
  <filter-mapping>
    <filter-name>Seam Filter</filter-name>
    <servlet-name>Faces Servlet</servlet-name>
    <url-pattern>/*</url-pattern>
    <dispatcher>REQUEST</dispatcher>
    <dispatcher>FORWARD</dispatcher>
    <dispatcher>INCLUDE</dispatcher>
  </filter-mapping>
  <filter>
    <filter-name>MyFacesExtensionsFilter</filter-name>
    
<filter-class>org.apache.myfaces.webapp.filter.ExtensionsFilter</filter-class>
    <init-param>
      <description>
        Set the size limit for uploaded files. Format: 10 - 10 bytes
10k - 10 KB 10m - 10 MB 1g - 1 GB
      </description>
      <param-name>maxFileSize</param-name>
      <param-value>20m</param-value>
    </init-param>
  </filter>
  <filter-mapping>
    <filter-name>MyFacesExtensionsFilter</filter-name>
    <servlet-name>Faces Servlet</servlet-name>
    <url-pattern>/faces/myFacesExtensionResource/*</url-pattern>
    <dispatcher>REQUEST</dispatcher>
    <dispatcher>FORWARD</dispatcher>
    <dispatcher>INCLUDE</dispatcher>
  </filter-mapping>
  <servlet>
    <servlet-name>Trinidad Resources</servlet-name>
    
<servlet-class>org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.webapp.ResourceServlet</servlet-class>
  </servlet>
  <servlet-mapping>
    <servlet-name>Trinidad Resources</servlet-name>
    <url-pattern>/adf/*</url-pattern>
  </servlet-mapping>
  <servlet>
    <servlet-name>Seam Resource Servlet</servlet-name>
    <servlet-class>org.jboss.seam.servlet.ResourceServlet</servlet-class>
  </servlet>
  <servlet-mapping>
    <servlet-name>Seam Resource Servlet</servlet-name>
    <url-pattern>/seam/resource/*</url-pattern>
  </servlet-mapping>
  <servlet>
    <servlet-name>Faces Servlet</servlet-name>
    <servlet-class>javax.faces.webapp.FacesServlet</servlet-class>
    <load-on-startup>1</load-on-startup>
  </servlet>
  <servlet-mapping>
    <servlet-name>Faces Servlet</servlet-name>
    <url-pattern>*.jsf</url-pattern>
  </servlet-mapping>
  <listener>
    <listener-class>org.jboss.seam.servlet.SeamListener</listener-class>
  </listener>
  <session-config>
    <session-timeout>30</session-timeout>
  </session-config>
  <welcome-file-list>
    <welcome-file>index.jsf</welcome-file>
  </welcome-file-list>
</web-app>

-Andrew

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:02 AM, Nuno Sousa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the tips people but it isn't working i tried to change the
> position of the trinidad / myextensions filter but nothing... it's a weird
> message because seems like trinidad filter is not ok, but the trinidad
> components are rendered, only tomahawk are not.
>  I think it's better i try another aproach instead of using tomahawk :P. I'm
> trying to create a treetable and i just used tomahawk because the examples
> in the page ( http://www.irian.at/myfacesexamples/treeTable.jsf ) include
> also the java code, because with trinidad i'm only getting the root node
> like this: http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3844/treetabletrinidadnw2.png
>
>
> Thanks for any help/ideas :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I believe Nuno has an app that worked fine *until* tomahawk was added to
> > >  the project. After adding tomahawk, there is now a trinidad internal
> > >  error. So it's some kind of interaction problem between tomahawk and
> > due to installation of the filters (IMO, see previous posts)
> >
> > >  trinidad. There might well be other problems with trinidad/richfaces,
> > >  but that doesn't seem to be the cause of this specific problem.
> > or perhaps all three of them ?
> >
> >
> > >
> > >  However as the error message was one from Trinidad, I suggested posting
> > >  with trinidad in the subject:
> > >
> > >
> > >  15:13:45,256 ERROR [STDERR] 15/Abr/2008 15:13:45
> > >   >  > org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.renderkit.core.CoreRenderKit
> > >   >  > createResponseWriter
> > >   >  > > SEVERE: No RenderingContext has been created.
> > >
> > >  Can some Trinidad person suggest why "No RenderingContext" might
> happen?
> >
> > Andrew and I said already, that it is related to the filter order..
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >  Andrew's suggestion of checking the filter order in web.xml is a good
> one. Moving the ExtensionsFilter to the start or end of the filters list is
> worth trying.
> > >
> > >  Regards,
> > >  Simon
> > >
> > >
> > >  Andrew Robinson schrieb:
> > >
> > > > Tomahawk, Facelets, Trinidad and Seam all play well for the most part
> > >  > (Seam components, not the framework, have had issues with Trinidad
> > >  > though).
> > >  >
> > >  > Looks like a filter problem to me. I did not reply as I keep
> > >  > recommending to ppl. to not use RichFaces or A4J with Trinidad, and
> > >  > did not want to beat that dead horse.
> > >  >
> > >  > My recommendation is to delete your web.xml and re-build it using the
> > >  > one from the trinidad-demo project. Filters must be in the correct
> > >  > order or things will blow up.
> > >  >
> > >  > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Matthias Wessendorf
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  >> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Matthias Wessendorf
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >  >>  > No need to resend mails every hour :-)
> > >  >>  >
> > >  >>  >  I basically never used Seam.
> > >  >>  >  My guess is that something with the filters now went wrong...
> > >  >>
> > >  >>  here is some doc:
> > >  >>  -http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Trinidad_And_Seam
> > >  >>  -http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/TrinidadSeamAjax4Jsf
> > >  >>  -http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/TrinidadSeamAjax4JsfFaceletDetail
> > >  >>
> > >  >>
> > >  >>  Andrew,
> > >  >>  have you used Tomahawk AND Trinidad w/ Seam ?
> > >  >>
> > >  >>  -Matthias
> > >  >>
> > >  >>
> > >  >>
> > >  >>  >is experiencing is that ever
> > >
> > >
> > > >>  >
> > >  >>  >
> > >  >>  >  On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Nuno Sousa
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >  >>  >  >
> > >  >>  >  >
> > >  >>  >  >
> > >  >>  >  > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Nuno Sousa
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >  >>  >  > > Hi,
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > > Im using seam+richfaces+trinidad+tomahawk
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > > When i was not using tomahawk everything was fine, but now
> after adding
> > >  >>  >  > tomahawk i got this messages:
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > > (...)
> > >  >>  >  > > 15:13:40,095 ERROR [STDERR] 15/Abr/2008 15:13:40
> > >  >>  >  > com.sun.facelets.compiler.TagLibraryConfig loadImplicit
> > >  >>  >  > > INFO: Added Library from:
> > >  >>  >  >
> jar:file:/C:/tools/SeamRF/jboss-4.2.2.GA/server/default/deploy/seamRFProj.ear/seamRFProj.war/WEB-INF/lib/richfaces-ui.jar!/META-INF/richfaces.taglib.xml
> > >  >>  >  > > 15:13:45,174 INFO  [MyfacesConfig] No context init parameter
> > >  >>  >  > 'org.apache.myfaces.PRETTY_HTML' found, using default value
> true
> > >  >>  >  > > 15:13:45,174 INFO  [MyfacesConfig] No context init parameter
> > >  >>  >  > 'org.apache.myfaces.ALLOW_JAVASCRIPT' found, using default
> value true
> > >  >>  >  > > 15:13:45,174 INFO  [MyfacesConfig] No context init parameter
> > >  >>  >  > 'org.apache.myfaces.READONLY_AS_DISABLED_FOR_SELECTS' found,
> using default
> > >  >>  >  > value true
> > >  >>  >  > > 15:13:45,174 INFO  [MyfacesConfig] No context init parameter
> > >  >>  >  > 'org.apache.myfaces.DETECT_JAVASCRIPT' found, using default
> value false
> > >  >>  >  > > 15:13:45,174 INFO  [MyfacesConfig] No context init parameter
> > >  >>  >  > 'org.apache.myfaces.AUTO_SCROLL' found, using default value
> false
> > >  >>  >  > > 15:13:45,174 INFO  [MyfacesConfig] No context init parameter
> > >  >>  >  > 'org.apache.myfaces.RESOURCE_VIRTUAL_PATH' found, using
> default value
> > >  >>  >  > /faces/myFacesExtensionResource
> > >  >>  >  > > 15:13:45,174 INFO  [MyfacesConfig] No context init parameter
> > >  >>  >  > 'org.apache.myfaces.CHECK_EXTENSIONS_FILTER' found, using
> default value true
> > >  >>  >  > > 15:13:45,174 INFO  [MyfacesConfig] Starting up Tomahawk on
> the
> > >  >>  >  > RI-JSF-Implementation.
> > >  >>  >  > > 15:13:45,256 ERROR [STDERR] 15/Abr/2008 15:13:45
> > >  >>  >  >
> org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.renderkit.core.CoreRenderKit
> > >  >>  >  > createResponseWriter
> > >  >>  >  > > SEVERE: No RenderingContext has been created.
> > >  >>  >  > > 15:13:45,350 ERROR [STDERR] 15/Abr/2008 15:13:45
> > >  >>  >  >
> org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.renderkit.core.CoreRenderKit
> > >  >>  >  > createResponseWriter
> > >  >>  >  > > SEVERE: No RenderingContext has been created.
> > >  >>  >  > > (...)
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > > My web.xml:
> > >  >>  >  > > <?xml version="1.0" ?>
> > >  >>  >  > > <web-app xmlns="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee";
> > >  >>  >  > xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";
> > >  >>  >  > xsi:schemaLocation="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee
> > >  >>  >  > http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee/web-app_2_5.xsd";
> version="2.5">
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <!-- Ajax4jsf -->
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <context-param>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <param-name>org.richfaces.SKIN</param-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <param-value>blueSky</param-value>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </context-param>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <filter>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <display-name>RichFaces Filter</display-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <filter-name>richfaces</filter-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <filter-class>org.ajax4jsf.Filter</filter-class>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </filter>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <filter-mapping>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <filter-name>richfaces</filter-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <servlet-name>Faces Servlet</servlet-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <dispatcher>REQUEST</dispatcher>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <dispatcher>FORWARD</dispatcher>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <dispatcher>INCLUDE</dispatcher>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </filter-mapping>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <!-- Seam -->
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <listener>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  >
> <listener-class>org.jboss.seam.servlet.SeamListener</listener-class>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </listener>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <filter>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <filter-name>Seam Filter</filter-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> <filter-class>org.jboss.seam.servlet.SeamFilter</filter-class>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </filter>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <filter-mapping>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <filter-name>Seam Filter</filter-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <url-pattern>/*</url-pattern>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </filter-mapping>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <servlet>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <servlet-name>Seam Resource Servlet</servlet-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  >
> <servlet-class>org.jboss.seam.servlet.SeamResourceServlet</servlet-class>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </servlet>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <servlet-mapping>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <servlet-name>Seam Resource Servlet</servlet-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <url-pattern>/seam/resource/*</url-pattern>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </servlet-mapping>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <!-- Facelets development mode (disable in production)
> -->
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <context-param>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <param-name>facelets.DEVELOPMENT</param-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <param-value>true</param-value>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </context-param>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <!-- JSF -->
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <context-param>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <param-name>javax.faces.DEFAULT_SUFFIX</param-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <param-value>.xhtml</param-value>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </context-param>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <servlet>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <servlet-name>Faces Servlet</servlet-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> <servlet-class>javax.faces.webapp.FacesServlet</servlet-class>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <load-on-startup>1</load-on-startup>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </servlet>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <servlet-mapping>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <servlet-name>Faces Servlet</servlet-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <url-pattern>*.seam</url-pattern>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </servlet-mapping>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <security-constraint>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <display-name>Restrict raw XHTML
> Documents</display-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <web-resource-collection>
> > >  >>  >  > >             <web-resource-name>XHTML</web-resource-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >             <url-pattern>*.xhtml</url-pattern>
> > >  >>  >  > >         </web-resource-collection>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <auth-constraint />
> > >  >>  >  > >     </security-constraint>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <!-- Trinidad -->
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <filter>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <filter-name>trinidad</filter-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  >
> <filter-class>org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.webapp.TrinidadFilter</filter-class>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </filter>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <filter-mapping>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <filter-name>trinidad</filter-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <!-- This assumes that the FacesServlet has been
> registered -->
> > >  >>  >  > >         <!-- under the name "faces" -->
> > >  >>  >  > >         <servlet-name>faces</servlet-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </filter-mapping>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <servlet>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <servlet-name>resources</servlet-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  >
> <servlet-class>org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.webapp.ResourceServlet</servlet-class>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </servlet>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <!-- This cannot be configured currently -->
> > >  >>  >  > >     <servlet-mapping>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <servlet-name>resources</servlet-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <url-pattern>/adf/*</url-pattern>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </servlet-mapping>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <context-param>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> <param-name>javax.faces.STATE_SAVING_METHOD</param-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <param-value>client</param-value>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </context-param>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <context-param>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  >
> <param-name>org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.ALTERNATE_VIEW_HANDLER</param-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> <param-value>com.sun.facelets.FaceletViewHandler</param-value>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </context-param>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <context-param>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <param-name>facelets.VIEW_MAPPINGS</param-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <param-value>*.xhtml</param-value>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </context-param>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <!-- Tomahawk -->
> > >  >>  >  > >     <context-param>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> <param-name>org.apache.myfaces.ADD_RESOURCE_CLASS</param-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  >
> <param-value>org.apache.myfaces.component.html.util.StreamingAddResource</param-value>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </context-param>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <filter>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <filter-name>MyFacesExtensionsFilter</filter-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  >
> <filter-class>org.apache.myfaces.webapp.filter.ExtensionsFilter</filter-class>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <init-param>
> > >  >>  >  > >             <param-name>maxFileSize</param-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >             <param-value>20m</param-value>
> > >  >>  >  > >         </init-param>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </filter>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <!-- extension mapping for adding <script/>, <link/>,
> and other
> > >  >>  >  > resource tags to JSF-pages  -->
> > >  >>  >  > >     <filter-mapping>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <filter-name>MyFacesExtensionsFilter</filter-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <!-- servlet-name must match the name of your
> > >  >>  >  > javax.faces.webapp.FacesServlet entry -->
> > >  >>  >  > >         <servlet-name>Faces Servlet</servlet-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </filter-mapping>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <!-- extension mapping for serving page-independent
> resources
> > >  >>  >  > (javascript, stylesheets, images, etc.)  -->
> > >  >>  >  > >     <filter-mapping>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <filter-name>MyFacesExtensionsFilter</filter-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> <url-pattern>/faces/myFacesExtensionResource/*</url-pattern>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </filter-mapping>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >     <!-- extension mapping for adding <script/>, <link/>,
> and other
> > >  >>  >  > resource tags to JSF-pages  -->
> > >  >>  >  > >     <filter-mapping>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <filter-name>MyFacesExtensionsFilter</filter-name>
> > >  >>  >  > >         <url-pattern>*.xhtml</url-pattern>
> > >  >>  >  > >     </filter-mapping>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > > </web-app>
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > > And tomahawk components aren't getting rendered, but
> trinidad components
> > >  >>  >  > are just fine.
> > >  >>  >  > > Any idea?
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > > Thanks
> > >  >>  >  > >
> > >  >>  >  > > --
> > >  >>  >  > > Ping is just a number timming is everything
> > >  >>  >  >
> > >  >>  >  >
> > >  >>  >  >
> > >  >>  >  > --
> > >  >>  >  > Ping is just a number timming is everything
> > >  >>  >
> > >  >>  >
> > >  >>  >
> > >  >>  >  --
> > >  >>  >  Matthias Wessendorf
> > >  >>  >
> > >  >>  >  further stuff:
> > >  >>  >  blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> > >  >>  >  sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> > >  >>  >  mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
> > >  >>  >
> > >  >>
> > >  >>
> > >  >>
> > >  >>  --
> > >  >>  Matthias Wessendorf
> > >  >>
> > >  >>  further stuff:
> > >  >>  blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> > >  >>  sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> > >  >>  mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
> > >  >>
> > >  >>
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> >
> > further stuff:
> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> > mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Ping is just a number timming is everything

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