I thought that because I was not using the bean's Boolean properties for 
rendering or visiblilty of the controls, the bean would not get created.  
However, there are timezone properties that are getting called and are causing 
the creation of the beans.  Example, I have several selectInputDate controls 
(from icefaces).  These controls are using the <f: convertDateTime type="date" 
timeZone="#{bean.getTimeZone}" /> converters.  These converters are calling the 
properties in the managed beans causing their creation.  Let me know if that is 
not a clear example.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Williamson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:15 PM
To: MyFaces Discussion
Subject: RE: Bean Creations

Can you tell us the reason (if it's not specific to your application)?
Thanks
Brett

-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Collins [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:17 AM
To: 'MyFaces Discussion'
Subject: RE: Bean Creations

Thank you for the tip.  With your help, I was able to nail down what was
going on.  Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Kienenberger [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:28 PM
To: MyFaces Discussion
Subject: Re: Bean Creations

Set a breakpoint in the constructor for one of the unexpected beans.
Or add "new Exception("Where is this happening?").printStackTrace();"
to the constructor.

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Russell Collins
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I am wondering why this is happening.  When I log into my application,
several beans are created.  Some are expected such as my main home page,
user sessions, etc.  There are some other objects that are not
referenced or rendered in on any current pages/tabs/etc. that are being
created.  I do not understand why this is happening.  Is there a general
reason why this could be going on?  It is not a huge deal but I was just
wanting to know some pointers as how to troubleshoot this and prevent
objects from being created unnecessarily.  Thanks.
>
>
>
> Russell Collins
> Sr. Software Engineer
> "Do or do not, there is no try." - Yoda
>
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