Am I missing something? Aren’t all the plugins that make up the web experience 
available (and installable) from the plugins pane? 

I upgraded to the RC last night, and found that installing the Java EE stuff 
was super simple. Sure, they are not bundled as they use to be. But that is 
just a temporary thing. 

What’s the issue?

M

> On Jun 1, 2018, at 6:06 AM, Geertjan Wielenga 
> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, it does:
> FYI, see the below for the donation status of features that have not been 
> donated to Apache yet, e.g., features for working with Java EE, JavaScript, 
> PHP, C/C++, and more:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition 
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition>
> Please be aware that we're in the process of moving to Apache. It is a long 
> process, it's going to continue to be a long process.
> 
> We're working hard on getting it done, it takes time, like all good things. 
> Again, read the above. We can't promise timelines, though in the case of the 
> 2nd donation, we're now very close -- the final approvals are being worked on.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gj
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Karl <karl.ranse...@justmail.de 
> <mailto:karl.ranse...@justmail.de>> wrote:
> That blog does not mention any plans to donate those vital parts to make 
> Apache NetBeans an IDE for (modern)  Web Applications. 
> Does that mean there is no such plan? 
> And yes, I am not a contributor - I am a user and have been for over 15 
> years. 
> The community does not only consist of contributors - it also needs happy 
> users to grow. 
> I have been trying to advocate  NetBeans in my work environment (30% InteliJ, 
> 69% Eclipse), but this is getting increasingly difficult to justify. 
> I actually had a conversation like that some weeks ago:
> 
> someone:  "Hey Karl, I would like to try NetBeans as that apparently works so 
> well for you"
> me: Sure, download NetBeans from https://netbeans.org/ 
> <https://netbeans.org/> it has everything you need
> someone: Does it support Java 10? 
> me: No, but you can use the Apache NetBeans 9.0 dev build - it's pretty stable
> someone (a few minutes later): I can't find the JSP or the JavaScript 
> support. How can I use it for the npm based React parts? 
> me: you can't, Apache NetBeans 9.0 only supports Java SE
> someone: OK, I'll go back to InteliJ then
> 
> Karl
> 
> 
> Am 01.06.2018 um 11:20 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>> No offence, but please read the blog:
>> 
>> https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/announce-apache-netbeans-incubating-91
>>  
>> <https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/announce-apache-netbeans-incubating-91>
>> 
>> Whoever you think "Oracle" is, Oracle is me, and many others in Oracle who 
>> have contributed to Apache NetBeans from the beginning:
>> 
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/contributors 
>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/contributors>
>> 
>> Above, I see many people from Oracle. I don't see you. I therefore prefer 
>> people from Oracle. :-)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Gj
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Karl <karl.ranse...@justmail.de 
>> <mailto:karl.ranse...@justmail.de>> wrote:
>> No offense, but what use is a Java IDE in 2018 without support for web 
>> applications? 
>> If that is Oracle's secret plan to kill NetBeans by making it unusable for 
>> professional development, it's working. 
>> Is there at least a time frame on why Oracle wants to donate that? (If they 
>> actually pan to do that)
>> 
>> Karl
>> 
>> 
>> Am 30.05.2018 um 18:40 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>>> Not in 9.0, which is focused on Java SE only. All the JavaScript features 
>>> (and Java EE, PHP, Groovy, C/C++) must still be donated to Apache by Oracle.
>>> 
>>> Gj
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, Mark A. Claassen <mclaas...@ocie.net 
>>> <mailto:mclaas...@ocie.net>> wrote:
>>> I have an Angular application that works just fine running “ng serve” from 
>>> the command line.  What is the best way to run this project  in netbeans?  
>>> I found some things on the internet, but they seem out of date or not quite 
>>> what I want.  Can I run this as a Node.js application and with the correct 
>>> project properties, have netbeans run “ng serve”?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Mark Claassen
>>> 
>>> Senior Software Engineer
>> 
>> 
> 
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