Thanks :) On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 9:55 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> When I searched for 'efx netbeans' in Google, 2 seconds later I had this: > https://bitbucket.org/sreimers/efx > > Gj > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Miroslav Nachev < > mnachev.nscenter...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks Sven. I could not find a project. Is it public anywhere? >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 9:18 PM, Sven Reimers <sven.reim...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> there is a project out there called eFX... >>> >>> It is a simple proof of concept of reuding NetBeans core functionality >>> (aka not swing dependent) and adding a JavaFX frontend.. >>> >>> This is focussing on WindowSystem ideas etc. and less on IDE >>> features(aka editor). >>> >>> There is one example application based on eFX - vmFX, a kind of VisualVM >>> clone.. >>> >>> The two people working on this are dusting off the code... because there >>> will be a Oracle Code One talk around the idea of a JavaFX Application >>> Platform... >>> >>> Hope this is interesting >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> -Sven >>> >>> Miroslav Nachev <mnachev.nscenter...@gmail.com> schrieb am Do., 16. >>> Aug. 2018, 18:00: >>> >>>> Great, >>>> The beginning of the team was set up. We're two now. >>>> >>>> >>>> Miro :) >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Josh Juneau <juneau...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes indeed, I agree that it will be a lot of work and it will take >>>>> talented engineers. Makes sense to at least look at it from a high level >>>>> first to see if certain parts of the UI could be re-written in >>>>> JavaFX...done in phases. I'd be willing to help out, but I cannot >>>>> realistically offer a ton of my time so it would definitely take a >>>>> committment from a number of community members before taking any steps >>>>> forward with this initiative. >>>>> >>>>> The main focus right now is drop two...I'm going to try and help where >>>>> I can with that for now, and I think we all should do what we can. This >>>>> is >>>>> certainly a good idea for a future project though if enough people are >>>>> willing to pitch in. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 7:34 AM Geertjan Wielenga >>>>> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Miroslav Nachev < >>>>>> mnachev.nscenter...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree with Geertjan Wielenga's assessment of the work and the >>>>>>> deadline. I would add, that if you go in this direction >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Wait a minute. :-) You're the one who started this thread, so if >>>>>> anyone is going to "go in this direction", that person is you, Miroslav >>>>>> Nachev. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Gj >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> it is good to think about updating the architecture and especially >>>>>>> on the Plugin system. It should be made easier and more functional in >>>>>>> keeping with new trends. For example, there is JVM and one Main Module >>>>>>> (Service), that runs all the other modules of Java (JDK), NetBeans, etc. >>>>>>> This architecture can be used for many kind of applications, not only >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> NetBeans. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 3:19 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < >>>>>>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Aside from the licensing concerns, I think we need to set some >>>>>>>> expectations here. I.e., rewriting the NetBeans user interface from >>>>>>>> Swing >>>>>>>> to JavaFX is a LOT of work. And it has to be done really well and be >>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>> performant and require a group of very highly skilled JavaFX >>>>>>>> developers. I >>>>>>>> would estimate that the work involved, depending on how many and who >>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>> do it, would take at least 6 months, though that's a rough estimate. >>>>>>>> It's >>>>>>>> probably one of the most complex tasks that I can think of in relation >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, it would be great for this to be done, but let's not be naive >>>>>>>> about the amount of work, skills, and energy required. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gj >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:15 PM, Neil C Smith < >>>>>>>> neilcsm...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2018, 12:51 Josh Juneau, <juneau...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to have a JavaFX GUI for NetBeans, specifically >>>>>>>>>> if something like Gluon Mobile were used >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For that to happen *here* would require a shift in Apache policies >>>>>>>>> towards GPL w/CPE licensed dependencies as far as I know. Of course, >>>>>>>>> ongoing modularization of the JDK and changes in deployment strategies >>>>>>>>> might provoke a change. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best wishes, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Neil >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> Josh Juneau >>>>> juneau...@gmail.com >>>>> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com >>>>> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >
