*On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 1:54 PM Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>> wrote:*
> *And, please, in all these things, do not go to the Plugin Manager, do not > either activate or enable anything there.* > > *Thanks,* > > *Gj* > Why? Best regards, John On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 14:09, Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: > Opened your project without a problem after doing the above. It looks > pretty cool in NetBeans. :-) > > Gj > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 1:58 PM Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Most likely the missing keymaps are also related to you simply not having >> the Java and Java EE supported enabled -- do that in the New Project dialog. >> >> I do think we need to look at your use case, i.e., you're someone who >> isn't using the New Project dialog at all, and that makes perfect sense in >> your case, however it does mean that you're not being given the opportunity >> (other than the obscure message about JavaFX) to enable the features you >> need. >> >> Gj >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 1:54 PM Geertjan Wielenga < >> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> And, please, in all these things, do not go to the Plugin Manager, do >>> not either activate or enable anything there. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Gj >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 1:53 PM Geertjan Wielenga < >>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> So, it sounds like you're simply opening NetBeans and then opening your >>>> project. >>>> >>>> Instead of that, would be better if you'd first enable Java and Java >>>> EE, in the New Project dialog, create a Java project and then a Java EE >>>> project and everything will be enabled and you shouldn't encounter this >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> Can you first try the above -- with a fresh userdir, i.e., from >>>> scratch, with nothing enabled or otherwise -- and then respond after that? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Gj >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 1:35 PM Philip Durbin <philipdur...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sure, it's easy to reproduce both the javafx error and the "dataverse >>>>> (broken)" experience, unfortunately. I just reproduced it on a second and >>>>> third computer here at home. That makes two Macs and one Ubuntu computer. >>>>> Here are the steps: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Unzip incubating-netbeans-11.0-vc4-bin.zip and launch Netbeans. >>>>> 2. git clone https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse.git (I'm on ac6a1fd) >>>>> 3. Open dataverse as a project >>>>> 4. Observe that Netbeans says "dataverse (broken)" >>>>> 5. Right click "dataverse (broken)" and click "Resolve Problems..." >>>>> 6. Observe the error "Feature FeatureInfo[java] is incomplete: some >>>>> module(s) are missing: org\.netbeans\.libs\.javafx\.(linux|win|macosx)" >>>>> >>>>> I'm attaching screenshots from the second Mac and the Ubuntu computer >>>>> and I'm putting details about their versions of Java below. >>>>> >>>>> I am *not* saying I want to install the "Java Web and Java EE" >>>>> support. Please re-read my original message. There is a difference between >>>>> installation and activation. I'm saying that as an experienced Netbeans >>>>> users, I'm aware that Netbeans has plugins and so I know to start poking >>>>> around in this area. Some of our summer interns are late high school or >>>>> early college students and have never touched Netbeans before. It is for >>>>> this reason that in that pull request for our dev guide (now merged) that >>>>> I >>>>> explain to go into "Plugins" and to observe that "Java Web and EE" is >>>>> already installed but must be activated. On my second Mac no plugins are >>>>> activated. When I check the box next to "Java Web and EE" the "Activate" >>>>> button becomes available. I haven't clicked "Activate" yet but I'll >>>>> include >>>>> a screenshot. I'm trying to say that seeing "dataverse (broken)" for a >>>>> Java >>>>> EE project is a poor user experience (I don't love the word "broken" in >>>>> this context) and that it's non-obvious to new Netbeans users that one >>>>> must >>>>> activate plugins to make the project non-broken. I compensated for this in >>>>> our dev guide, explaining how to make our project non-broken from the >>>>> Netbeans perspective. >>>>> >>>>> Emma, thanks for your note about Java 8 vs. 11. Below I'm listing the >>>>> Java versions I'm running on the three computers I've tried. >>>>> >>>>> I'm glad to hear that docs are coming. Docs are extremely important. >>>>> >>>>> One more bit of feedback is that yesterday from my Mac at work (Mac 1, >>>>> below), a number of Keymap shortcuts were missing. The entire >>>>> "CommonTestRunner" category was absent, for example. Quitting Netbeans and >>>>> restarting it fixed this. Very strange. I did not observe this bug on >>>>> either computer at home. Very strange. I reported this yesterday in >>>>> #netbeans on freenode, which I understand is piped into your Slack. You >>>>> can >>>>> read what I wrote at >>>>> http://echelog.com/logs/browse/netbeans/1553727600 >>>>> >>>>> I hope the feedback I'm giving is appreciated. I've spent a lot of >>>>> time on this. To be clear, I voted "ship it!" for Netbeans 11 because I >>>>> can >>>>> work around these issue and guide contributors to our Java EE project to >>>>> work around them as well. Again, I'm thrilled that I'm not stuck on >>>>> Netbeans 8.2 anymore. THANK YOU! >>>>> >>>>> Phil >>>>> >>>>> Mac 1 (work) >>>>> OS X 10.14.3 >>>>> AdoptOpenJDK 1.8.0_192-b12 >>>>> (I can't run `java -version` from home) >>>>> >>>>> Mac 2 (home) >>>>> OS X 10.14.3 >>>>> openjdk version "11" 2018-09-25 >>>>> OpenJDK Runtime Environment 18.9 (build 11+28) >>>>> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 18.9 (build 11+28, mixed mode) >>>>> >>>>> Linux 1 (home) >>>>> Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS >>>>> openjdk version "1.8.0_191" >>>>> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build >>>>> 1.8.0_191-8u191-b12-2ubuntu0.18.04.1-b12) >>>>> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.191-b12, mixed mode) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 4:07 AM Geertjan Wielenga < >>>>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Can you provide step by step instructions from scratch so that we can >>>>>> reproduce seeing this error: >>>>>> >>>>>> Feature FeatureInfo[java] is incomplete: some module(s) are missing: >>>>>> org\.netbeans\.libs\.javafx\.(linux|win|macosx) >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Gj >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 7:00 AM Geertjan Wielenga < >>>>>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I don’t understand why you want to install the ‘Java Web and Java >>>>>>> EE’ support in Apache NetBeans 11. Please don’t do that. That support is >>>>>>> automatically built into Apache NetBeans 11 for the first time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, no docs yet specific to this release. Once they’re there would >>>>>>> indeed be great for you to provide feedback on them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gj >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 21:50, Emma Atkinson < >>>>>>> emma.atkins...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Phil >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think the error dialog saying >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Feature FeatureInfo[java] is incomplete: some module(s) are >>>>>>>> missing: org\.netbeans\.libs\.javafx\.(linux|win|macosx) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> might be caused by running on JDK8. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When I used the option *--jdkhome <path>* to specify jdk-11 (*please >>>>>>>> check the release notes for the right one*) the error did not >>>>>>>> appear. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Emma >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:19, Philip Durbin <philipdur...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi! I just filled out the survey (late, please give us more notice >>>>>>>>> next time) and I have a little feedback that I'd like to share here >>>>>>>>> for a >>>>>>>>> couple reasons: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - From my perspective, the survey goes into a black hole. If there >>>>>>>>> is any transparency about what responses have been recorded so far, I >>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>> know where to find them. If they're available, I'm interested in them. >>>>>>>>> - The survey didn't allow me to enter any comments. It's all >>>>>>>>> multiple choice. I have more I would have said in the survey. But >>>>>>>>> maybe >>>>>>>>> that's what mailing lists are for. :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So here we go. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've been feeling "stuck" on Oracle NetBeans 8.2 for a long time >>>>>>>>> because of the lack of Java EE support in Apache NetBeans. The guy at >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> desk to me got our Java EE project (Dataverse) working in NetBeans 9 >>>>>>>>> but I >>>>>>>>> didn't have such a good time with NetBeans 10. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm thrilled to say that this morning I got NetBeans 11 working >>>>>>>>> with our Java EE project. I'm no longer stuck on 8.2. THANK YOU! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> However, not all is well. Being open source, we try to onboard as >>>>>>>>> many new contributors as possible to our project and if you follow >>>>>>>>> our dev >>>>>>>>> guide as it appears now (4.11 for my reference), your first >>>>>>>>> experience with >>>>>>>>> NetBeans 11 and our project is that it says "(broken)" next to the >>>>>>>>> project >>>>>>>>> name in the Projects tab. (Screenshot attached.) If you right-click >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> project and click "Resolve Problems", this is the error you see: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Feature FeatureInfo[java] is incomplete: some module(s) are >>>>>>>>> missing: org\.netbeans\.libs\.javafx\.(linux|win|macosx) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We don't use JavaFX in our project so it's a very strange error. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Next I clicked "Help" and then "Online Docs and Support". These >>>>>>>>> show docs for NetBeans 10 with no mention that I could find of what >>>>>>>>> Java EE >>>>>>>>> developers are suppose to do. If there are new docs for NetBeans 11 >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> you'd like us to look at before you release, please let us know. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From previous attempts to get our project running on anything >>>>>>>>> newer than NetBeans 8.2 I knew that I should check out which plugins >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> installed and enabled. I don't expect our contributors to know this >>>>>>>>> so I >>>>>>>>> just made a pull request to improve our dev guide to explain how to >>>>>>>>> go from >>>>>>>>> "broken" to a Java EE project. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> After activating "Java Web and EE", there is no green checkmark in >>>>>>>>> the Active column. Some new menu items appear but "clean and build" >>>>>>>>> still >>>>>>>>> isn't available. I restarted NetBeans and explain this step in my pull >>>>>>>>> request: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pull/5695 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In case it helps, I'm on Mac OS X 10.14.3. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In my pull request I didn't document how to launch NetBeans but >>>>>>>>> maybe I should since a lot of our contributors are new developers, >>>>>>>>> sometimes college students, who may not be very familiar with the >>>>>>>>> command >>>>>>>>> line. I doubt anyone here needs this (and you probably have better >>>>>>>>> ways) >>>>>>>>> but I'll include my little script below since it's on my mind: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> #!/bin/sh >>>>>>>>> VERSION='11.0-vc4' >>>>>>>>> BIN="$HOME/java/netbeans/$VERSION/netbeans/bin/netbeans" >>>>>>>>> echo "Launching Netbeans from $BIN" >>>>>>>>> $BIN & >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I guess the other thing I'll mention is that my pull request also >>>>>>>>> includes the workaround to get the Netbeans Connector Chrome Extension >>>>>>>>> working. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Finally, I've already given a little feedback on the survey >>>>>>>>> itself, about how I was confused that you don't let your participants >>>>>>>>> type >>>>>>>>> anything (multiple choice only) but I'm new to your process. The other >>>>>>>>> specific thing is that I would have appreciate an "I don't know" >>>>>>>>> option for >>>>>>>>> the question about performance of NetBeans 10 vs 11. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for reading all this! I hope it's helpful! Again, I really >>>>>>>>> appreciate that Java EE support has been restored and that I'm no >>>>>>>>> longer >>>>>>>>> feeling held back on old versions of Oracle NetBeans. Thank you! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Phil >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Philip Durbin >>>>>>>>> Software Developer for http://dataverse.org >>>>>>>>> http://www.iq.harvard.edu/people/philip-durbin >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
