Still no main class choices in the pop-up. I don't see why there would be if 
the .java file isn't actually a part of the build script.

> And following instructions means naming things the same as in the 
> instructions. Just follow the instructions in the YouTube clip as exactly as 
> you can, including the names of everything, 

If the build system depends on renaming things from their defaults, then it is 
truly broken and not worth my effort to learn. I think we're done.

-----Original Message-----
From: Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org> 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 6:33 AM
To: Walter Oney <walter.o...@oneylaw.com>
Cc: Carl Mosca <carljmo...@gmail.com>; Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org>; 
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Subject: Re: FW: screenshot

Type 'main' or 'psvm' and then press Tab.

And when you right-click the project, choose 'Run', not 'Build'.

Gj

On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 12:31 PM Walter Oney <walter.o...@oneylaw.com 
<mailto:walter.o...@oneylaw.com> > wrote:


        Another difference: I don't get the same auto-complete behavior you did 
when you typed "main". Did you perhaps hit a shortcut key at that point?
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Walter Oney <walter.o...@oneylaw.com 
<mailto:walter.o...@oneylaw.com> > 
        Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 6:28 AM
        To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <geert...@apache.org 
<mailto:geert...@apache.org> >
        Cc: 'Carl Mosca' <carljmo...@gmail.com <mailto:carljmo...@gmail.com> >; 
'Neil C Smith' <neilcsm...@apache.org <mailto:neilcsm...@apache.org> >; 
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        Subject: RE: FW: screenshot
        
        When I follow those directions as accurately as I can, I end up with 
what you see in the attached screen shot. The .java file is apparently not part 
of the project, however, because I don't have the option to compile it when I 
right-click on it within the project pane. You can also see that the build says 
there are no source files to compile. Attempting to run this app gives me the 
same pop-up error that I get with Ant, with a list of alternative main classes 
containing just "<no main classes found>".
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org 
<mailto:geert...@apache.org> > 
        Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 6:07 AM
        To: Walter Oney <walter.o...@oneylaw.com 
<mailto:walter.o...@oneylaw.com> >
        Cc: Carl Mosca <carljmo...@gmail.com <mailto:carljmo...@gmail.com> >; 
Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org <mailto:neilcsm...@apache.org> >; NetBeans 
Mailing List <users@netbeans.apache.org <mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org> >
        Subject: Re: FW: screenshot
        
        https://youtu.be/HcmcOMZQ0TM
        
        
        Created that especially for you and hope it helps you.
        
        Gj
        
        
        On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 11:59 AM Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org 
<mailto:geert...@apache.org>  <mailto:geert...@apache.org 
<mailto:geert...@apache.org> > > wrote:
        
        
                You probably mean an empty project. And indeed, no main class 
can be found because there's no source file at all. So create one and create a 
main class within it.
        
                Gj
        
                On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 11:53 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
<geert...@apache.org <mailto:geert...@apache.org>  <mailto:geert...@apache.org 
<mailto:geert...@apache.org> > > wrote:
        
        
                        What is “a project with a class but no source file”?
        
                        Gj
        
                        On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 at 11:50, Walter Oney 
<walter.o...@oneylaw.com <mailto:walter.o...@oneylaw.com>  
<mailto:walter.o...@oneylaw.com <mailto:walter.o...@oneylaw.com> > > wrote:
        
        
                                With "Java with Maven" I get a project with a 
class but no source file. Attempting to run gives the same apparent error 
pop-up that there's no main class.
        
                                Using "Java with Gradle" earns me a message 
that there's no valid Java platform for key default_platform.
        
                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org 
<mailto:geert...@apache.org>  <mailto:geert...@apache.org 
<mailto:geert...@apache.org> > > 
                                Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 5:45 AM
                                To: Walter Oney <walter.o...@oneylaw.com 
<mailto:walter.o...@oneylaw.com>  <mailto:walter.o...@oneylaw.com 
<mailto:walter.o...@oneylaw.com> > >
                                Cc: Carl Mosca <carljmo...@gmail.com 
<mailto:carljmo...@gmail.com>  <mailto:carljmo...@gmail.com 
<mailto:carljmo...@gmail.com> > >; Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org 
<mailto:neilcsm...@apache.org>  <mailto:neilcsm...@apache.org 
<mailto:neilcsm...@apache.org> > >; NetBeans Mailing List 
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                                Subject: Re: FW: screenshot
        
                                Now can you try to reproduce the same problem 
with the Java Application (the first template, right at the top) in “Java with 
Maven”?
        
                                Gj
        
                                On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 at 11:40, Walter Oney 
<walter.o...@oneylaw.com <mailto:walter.o...@oneylaw.com>  
<mailto:walter.o...@oneylaw.com <mailto:walter.o...@oneylaw.com> >  
<mailto:walter.o...@oneylaw.com <mailto:walter.o...@oneylaw.com>  
<mailto:walter.o...@oneylaw.com <mailto:walter.o...@oneylaw.com> > > > wrote:
        
        
                                        I chose category "Java with Ant" and 
project "Java Application"
        
                                        -----Original Message-----
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<mailto:walter.o...@oneylaw.com <mailto:walter.o...@oneylaw.com> >  
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                                        Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 5:22 
AM
                                        To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' 
<geert...@apache.org <mailto:geert...@apache.org>  <mailto:geert...@apache.org 
<mailto:geert...@apache.org> >  <mailto:geert...@apache.org 
<mailto:geert...@apache.org>  <mailto:geert...@apache.org 
<mailto:geert...@apache.org> > > >
                                        Cc: 'Carl Mosca' <carljmo...@gmail.com 
<mailto:carljmo...@gmail.com>  <mailto:carljmo...@gmail.com 
<mailto:carljmo...@gmail.com> >  <mailto:carljmo...@gmail.com 
<mailto:carljmo...@gmail.com>  <mailto:carljmo...@gmail.com 
<mailto:carljmo...@gmail.com> > > >; 'Neil C Smith' <neilcsm...@apache.org 
<mailto:neilcsm...@apache.org>  <mailto:neilcsm...@apache.org 
<mailto:neilcsm...@apache.org> >  <mailto:neilcsm...@apache.org 
<mailto:neilcsm...@apache.org>  <mailto:neilcsm...@apache.org 
<mailto:neilcsm...@apache.org> > > >; 'NetBeans Mailing List' 
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                                        Subject: RE: FW: screenshot
        
                                        > No, I don’t. Are you using ‘Java with 
Maven’ or ‘Java with Ant’?
        
                                        I must be missing something major. The 
screen shot plainly shows that I'm using Apache NetBeans 11.1 with Ant. 
Normally, I would think that I've done something wrong, because I learned 
sometime around 1965 that computers and well-vetted tools rarely make mistakes. 
Since this isn't my first rodeo, I tend to think that something about the 
automatic class creation logic is mismatched with the build environment -- 
probably because I installed the wrong version of something through ignorance.
        
                                        Hopefully, you'll accept a friendly 
suggestion about how to provide tech support and/or volunteer help: it never 
hurts to assume that you're dealing with an accurate report of a problem from 
someone who is missing a crucial piece of information that experienced users 
possess. In my salad days, I used to send academic users out of the assistance 
office to lookup something in one of the dozens of IBM manuals that were 
conveniently mounted in a rack next to the keypunches. I eventually learned 
that what was transparent to me as a systems programmer was completely opaque 
to real users.
        
                                        --
                                        Walter C. Oney, Jr., Esq.
                                        267 Pearl Hill Rd., Fitchburg, MA 01420
                                        Tel.: 978-343-3390
                                        http://www.oneylaw.com
        
        
        
        
        
        
                                        
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