On Sat, 14 Oct 2023 at 15:43, Philip Durbin <philipdur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just reverted the SDKMAN hack I described earlier (now 
> `/usr/libexec/java_home` no longer works) and then proceeded to install 
> NetBeans 19 (Apache-NetBeans-19.pkg, not the community installer) without any 
> issue. So on my machine at least, it seems the hack is no longer required. 
> Thank you, Neil, for letting us know the installer has been changed (fixed, 
> from my perspective). Much appreciated!

Thanks.  Good to know!

> p.s. I'd say whatever is listed first on the download page should "just work" 
> so if we want to nudge people toward the community installers, I'd suggest 
> moving them up. Or maybe there could be a note indicating that if the 
> official installers don't work, please try the community installers. 
> Personally, I'm happy to use the official installer.

Well, now that the Apache distributed Linux and macOS installers are
also built with NBPackage, the difference is that they don't include a
local JDK runtime inside them.

The JDK inside the Codelerity community installer is resigned and
notarized with the IDE.  Given how Apple is moving I think it's a good
thing to push the self-contained, runtime-included bundle.  So, I
agree with you here, and in fact I would even drop Apache installers
and only ship the binary zip from Apache, but that's just my opinion.
As OpenJDK is not Apache license compatible, we cannot ship anything
that includes a JDK inside via Apache infrastructure.

The term "official" is a curious one here.  Officially we only release
sources*.  The Apache and community macOS installers are both
convenience binaries.  Thay are currently produced from the binary zip
on the same machine and signed by the same person, me, just with
different certificates.

* https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#compiled-packages

Best wishes,

Neil

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