I do -- I'll have something up somewhere in the next day or so.

-Patrick

On 7/16/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The wiki is probably the best place for the discussion.

Patrick, if you have some material to put there it might be best for
you to do so. Otherwise, I'll be happy to start the page.

Craig

On Jul 16, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Mauricio Salatino wrote:

> can we open a forum or something like that in openjpa website?
> there are more people intrested in the topic to form a little group?
>
> On 7/16/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm not aware of any actual discussion going on now.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> On Jul 16, 2007, at 10:23 AM, Mauricio Salatino wrote:
>>
>> > there is some actual discussion or we must start it now?
>> >
>> > On 7/16/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 16, 2007, at 10:07 AM, Mauricio Salatino wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > ok.. i'm very intrested ..
>> >> > in reply to craig russell.. it will be very good if you tell us
>> >> more
>> >> > about this discussion..
>> >>
>> >> Well, the process hasn't gotten to any level of detail. I
>> expect that
>> >> the EG will take what the major JPA implementations have done and
>> >> standardize the functionality. Or they will take an abstraction
>> like
>> >> Patrick is talking about to produce a JPAQL string. There are
>> >> advantages and disadvantages to both techniques.
>> >>
>> >> I think the best thing for us is to discuss on this list and
>> then try
>> >> to influence the standard.
>> >>
>> >> Craig
>> >> >
>> >> > On 7/16/07, Patrick Linskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Keep an eye open here... I'll post more about it soon.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Patrick
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 7/16/07, Mauricio Salatino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> > so.. can i join to some team to talk about this and
>> >> contribute? or
>> >> >> > there is no team about this topic?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On 7/16/07, Patrick Linskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> > > Hi,
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > I've done a certain amount of work on this topic with a
>> >> couple of
>> >> >> > > others, but haven't gotten anywhere final. I've got the
>> >> >> beginnings of
>> >> >> > > a query builder API + implementation that generates JPQL
>> >> strings,
>> >> >> > > which should be usable with any JPA implementation.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > I'm working with the others who have been involved to
>> figure
>> >> >> out where
>> >> >> > > to put the source for this; ideally, I'd like to put it
>> >> somewhere
>> >> >> > > other than in org.apache.openjpa, since it just generates
>> >> >> JPQL, so can
>> >> >> > > be used with any JPA provider.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > -Patrick
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > On 7/16/07, Mauricio Salatino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> > > > do you know someone who has interest in this topic? i
>> would
>> >> >> like to
>> >> >> > > > contribute with this.. but if you know someone i can join
>> >> us..
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > On 7/16/07, Marc Prud'hommeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >> >> > > > > Mauricio-
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > I see what you mean. No, we currently do not have any
>> >> >> simple way of
>> >> >> > > > > building a query using an object-based API, a la
>> TopLink's
>> >> >> Expression
>> >> >> > > > > classes.
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > It would probably be simple to create one that simply
>> >> >> builds up the
>> >> >> > > > > JPQL underneath, but to my knowledge no one has ever
>> done
>> >> >> this.
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > On Jul 16, 2007, at 9:18 AM, Mauricio Salatino wrote:
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > I know that i can do "select x from Entity x order by
>> >> >> x.someField" but
>> >> >> > > > > > i wanna know it there some methods in the API where i
>> >> >> can use
>> >> >> > > > > > Expressions like in TopLink Extensions.. to do the
>> same
>> >> >> ("select x from
>> >> >> > > > > > Entity x order by x.someField") but in this way:
>> >> >> > > > > > exp.addOrdering(exp.get("someField").ascending());
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > again sorry for my english
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > On 7/16/07, Marc Prud'hommeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > > > > >>
>> >> >> > > > > >> Well, sorting is a standard part of the JPQL, which
>> >> >> OpenJPA fully
>> >> >> > > > > >> supports (e.g., "select x from Entity x order by
>> >> >> x.someField"). See
>> >> >> > > > > >> http://openjpa.apache.org/docs/latest/manual/
>> >> >> > > > > >> manual.html#jpa_overview_meta_orderby
>> >> >> > > > > >>
>> >> >> > > > > >> Was there any specific functionality that you were
>> >> >> looking for in the
>> >> >> > > > > >> form of extensions? OpenJPA does extend the spec in
>> >> >> many useful ways,
>> >> >> > > > > >> all of which should be covered in the documentation.
>> >> >> > > > > >>
>> >> >> > > > > >>
>> >> >> > > > > >>
>> >> >> > > > > >> On Jul 16, 2007, at 8:19 AM, Mauricio Salatino
>> wrote:
>> >> >> > > > > >>
>> >> >> > > > > >> > Hi to all!
>> >> >> > > > > >> > this is my first question in this list...
>> >> >> > > > > >> > I wanna know if openJpa have extra funcionalities,
>> >> >> like query
>> >> >> > > > > >> sorting?
>> >> >> > > > > >> > (like toplink extensions)
>> >> >> > > > > >> >
>> >> >> > > > > >> > Thanks
>> >> >> > > > > >> > PS: sorry for my english!
>> >> >> > > > > >> > --
>> >> >> > > > > >> > - Salatino Mauricio -
>> >> >> > > > > >>
>> >> >> > > > > >>
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > --
>> >> >> > > > > > - Salatino Mauricio -
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > --
>> >> >> > > >  - Salatino Mauricio -
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > --
>> >> >> > > Patrick Linskey
>> >> >> > > 202 669 5907
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >  - Salatino Mauricio -
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Patrick Linskey
>> >> >> 202 669 5907
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > - Salatino Mauricio -
>> >>
>> >> Craig Russell
>> >> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/
>> products/
>> >> jdo
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>> >> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > - Salatino Mauricio -
>>
>> Craig Russell
>> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/
>> jdo
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>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> - Salatino Mauricio -

Craig Russell
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