On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:42:52 -0500 Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> wrote:
> lots of replies for someone that never came back to clarify its point. > Is clearly a spam email. <snip> [RoryOF] There have been other emails in this thread towards the same point, which I won't quote. The INVALID marker in the yahoo.com address seems to be added by the Apache listkeeper and must be removed manually before replying to the OP. I have received a personal reply from him which elaborates on the points he makes. Below I echo this to the list. I am not a Calc user in other than the most trivial sense (one A4 page of simple calculation); I have also not used a Mac in 35+ years, so am beyond my knowledge in this. [/RoryOF] Detailed email received: ----------------- Thanks Rory. The file I downloaded was the "full installation" for Mac OSX 64-bit DMG at http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html I mainly use it for the spreadsheets. I'm somewhat reticent to try it again but at this point I have a bunch of spreadsheets in the .ods format now and the idea of converting them to use in Excel (which, if it weren't for the bugs in Openoffice, would actually be an inferior program in some respects). I'm willing to accept the issue with my middle mouse button may be something more complicated. I remember uninstalilng an earlier version of Openoffice and the problem went away. I don't honestly have many times when I wish to use it, so it's one of the lesser issues. However now having uninstalled version 4.1 the issue still persists, so for all I know, it is something else, despite the fact that I thought i had pinned it down to Openoffice. The other weird thing is that I was using 4.0 but now when I go to that same link and try to download a full installation for 4.0, it says that there is none available for my system. I don't know how I installed it before if there is no installer for it. By far the most annoying bug from 4.0 was the scrollbar issue. As mentioned, with large spreadsheets, scrolling down very far caused it to be very difficult to return up. You could do it, but it would go very slowly. It would not let you drag the bar up as quickly as you wanted. You could scroll up with the middle mouse wheel but that would take forever with the size of documents I'm talking about (I'm not sure what the cut-off was, but imagine several hundreds to thousands of rows of spreadsheet). Usually I would just have to return to the top by searching for known contents of an earlier cell or using the "go to cell" feature, which is obnoxious. And I know I'm not the only one who has this problem because I've read about it as a known issue. Whether or not it persists in 4.1 I have no idea because the program wouldn't even launch completely. Overall, I wish that Openoffice would work better because there are advantages to it. An .ods spreadsheet is much smaller than an .xls file of the exact same spreadsheet, for one. I believe the "find" function is also better in Openoffice than Excel (at least the version I have). I admit that not being able to even sign up for the support forum was the thing that broke my patience entirely, plus the inability to now even revert to using the version of the program I had been using for lack of installer. By the way, if you're curious, I'm using a Mac Pro 2.1, 2 x 3ghz Quad core Intel Xeon with 16 gb of RAM (most support people inevitably want to know what your system is). On Saturday, October 18, 2014 4:27 AM, Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 23:08:50 -0700 michael sintros <mbsint...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote: > Your software is so terrible that I lack the appropriate words to describe > it. I have used version 4.0 for a long time now. It functions... barely. > Using the side scroll bar in large documents, once you scroll to the bottom, > it will not let you scroll back up. This is incredibly mindbogglingly > annoying. The software also hijacks my middle mouse button and regardless of > the application, will not function at all if the software is installed at > all. This is not only annoying but creepy. Why if Openoffice is installed > but not even open does it affect the behavior of other programs. Ridiculous. > > > > Now I see that 4.1 has been released. With hope that some of these issues > would be fixed I installed it on my computer. It took several minutes for > the program to not even open at all, giving me "not responding" messages, > hijacking my computer so that I couldn't even do things in other applications > and finally I had to force quit it. > > > If all of that weren't bad enough, I went on your "support" forum to talk > about this but I can't even register. Why? Who the fuck knows. It keeps > telling me that I need a valid email address even though I've entered my > email address about 800 times. > > > Not only are you people incapable of writing a fully functional program, but > you can't even properly create a functional support forum for that > malfunctioning garbage software. Yes, it's free and I don't have to use it. > Congratulations, you have created a piece of software that is not only not > worth using for free but wouldn't be worth using if someone paid me to do so. > Can you please tell us _exactly_ the name and size of the file you have downloaded to install OpenOffice 4.1; from which site did you download it (URL should be in download history). With regard to your experience logging on to the User support forum, I am sure that when a Forum Administrator comes online he will look into this. The behaviour of OpenOffice on your computer is not typical as over 100 million users can testify. It may be that you now distrust it and would prefer nothing to do with it, in which case I suggest you look for other Office suites. These include (inter alia) LibreOffice (based largely on OO code), and Caligra. If you require simply a wordprocessor perhaps AbiWord might suit your needs. -- Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> -- Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org