Reply at bottom.

On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 17:40, M. Fioretti wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 20:40:05 PM +0000, Andrew Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote: 
> > "M. Fioretti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:20050206094804.GC12273  
> > @mclink.it:
> > 
> > > Me, I can confirm that whenever I write an article it does have an
> > > assigned word count, and that checking its value whenever I move/
> > > rearrange/edit/delete paragraphs is the one thing that slows me
> > > down the MOST in OO.o.
> > 
> > So download and use my macro -- put it on a button, and it's pretty
> > easy.
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> I _am_ using your macro and am grateful for it. It is excellent, like
> the others you make, but I stand by what I said, because:
> 
> 1) w.r.t. the fuel level analogy, having to push a button to check it
>    is better than parking, but still much more awkward than what it
>    should be, that is have it always available in the status bar
> 
> 2) the *real* problem is not the quality of your macro. Is the fact
>    that OO.o proper does NOT have a usable (=constantly updated in
>    the status bar) word count. The fact that you must discover that a
>    separate macro exists, find it and install it. All to have (not
>    your fault of course) a sub-optimal functionality: a patch, not a
>    solution.
> 
> The prove is the fact that the reviewer I mentioned in this thread
> immediately went for the word count and couldn't care less to check
> if, with *his* own effort, the program could reach that level of (for
> him) minimal functionality. Because, being (ok, for him) a really
> basic function it should have come in the status bar with the
> package. It simply wasn't his responsibility to do it.
> 
> The net result is, like it or not, that OO.o ended up looking
> suboptimal for casual readers because it doesn't have the first
> function that *all* its first time reviewers need in order to deliver
> earlier. Maybe this is one of the areas with the greatest ratio between
> marketing/PR benefit and coding effort, but it keeps being ignored.
> 
> I know of the issue for placing the word count in the status bar, but
> (as far as I remember) I gave up voting back then because discussions
> here gave me the impression that there was really no feeling or
> acknowledgment of this particular problem.
> 
> Ciao,
>       Marco F.

Most of my macros are experiments with the UI to see what works and what
doesn't for people - with the eventual aim of getting changes to the
source code (a step I haven't got to yet).

I have just been playing with having a selection change listener
combined with Andrew's word count macro (slightly modified). If nothing
is selected (or more than one selection is made) the normal status bar
is displayed, but if a single selection is made the status bar shows
similar information to that displayed in Andrew's original dialog.

Would this approach meet the perceived need? If people are interested I
could tidy it up and post it on my site. Or Andrew if you are interested
I could post what I have done to you.
.
(In that article there were quite a number of mistakes, one example: the
article states that toolbars in OOo can't be moved.)

Thanks, Ian


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