Thanks to all those making suggestions, chris bonde got it, keep doing the same thing till it goes, ie selecting paragraphs above the border and keep trying to format them, after quite a few tries it worked. Odd to try something again that didn't work the previous time. thanks Chris.
Glad you got help.
as for G. Roderick Singleton standard read the manual type reply, once I knew the problem was an autoformat problem I did read the archives, I didn't find anyone stating try doing the same thing over and over again until it works. I've been on this list since August 2002, helping quite a few people out where I can, usually directly as I don't like my email address appearing on a publicly accessable website (spam you know), but with leaders like G. Roderick Singleton I don't know whether I'll bother anymore
In a GRS's defense, I did ask like the same question about 2-3 weeks ago about the border showing up automatically (that is how I knew the answer :) ), so if should have been in the archive.
However, the archives can be a pain in the %$# to search, so I can see how you missed it.
Hope you hand around some more.
As a suggestion if you are worried about your e-mail address, I created a separate one for OOo stuff that I can sever if spam starts hitting it, but no problems yet.
Have a great night.
-- Peter Kupfer OOo user since 'OO4 http://peschtra.tripod.com/open_office/ooo_front.htm
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