Having done programming for a long time, I can tell you:

"Just around the corner..." is equivalent to "any day soon" - which can be five minutes to five years to never. It's a standing joke. This is *not* meant as a comment on OOo or any other specific project. It's just that software is complex and OOo is very complex, so what appears as a simple problem may take quite a bit of effort to analyze and fix. And (most of) these guys and gals don't even get paid to do it!

Generally, OOo is not an offender in this area. M$, on the other hand is notorious for adding features instead of fixing bugs. It recently caught up with them and they delayed the next" great" release of Windows (longhorn) more than a whole year because they had to go back and plug at least some of their security holes to convince people to keep taking them seriously.

The other side of the same coin is that a very small problem like one bad pointer (that tells a program to use data from in the middle of nowhere) which can often be fixed in a few seconds once it's found can wreak all sorts of havoc and look like a huge problem.

Joe

Carl Paulsen wrote:

Good advice, but I'd like to observe that some members of this list suggest that v.2 is just around the corner, while this advice (given frequently on this list) suggests otherwise. That is, if v.2 is just around the corner, then how could such major problems still exist? I understand it's possible that big problems still exist AND yet it is still just around the corner, but from a user perspective, just around the corner suggests that only small problems remain. While I'm sticking with 1.1.4 until v.2 has been out for a while, I can see the temptation to adopt v.2 beta, especially with it's database tool (which I eagerly await as I do occasional database consulting for non-profits who love Access : ( but don't love the price).

Carl


helper1 wrote:

This is a little off topic - but it must be said - do not use version 2.0 for important work - unless you are prepared to waste time trying to recover lost information. I do not think v.2 is stable enough yet to be used for important tasks. It is very good potentially - but it must be remembered that it is a work in progress item - a Beta version and this means that it has a much much higher probability of going wrong than a final release.

If you need to complete important tasks - use Ooo 1.1.4. I have 1.1.3 which I use for real work - but I've stopped using v2 for this purpose after having problems with crashes. Now, I am very wary about using v2, but I know and understand that it is not finished yet. Many users seem to think that v2 can be installed and forgotten - this is not true. If you really must use 2.0, save regularly to another docment format as well as backing up.

Alex - and yes, I will be using v2 as my main office application - once the critical bugs have been ironed out and I'm trying to help a little by providing feedback and confirming certain problems for the dev team.

Ganesha Bhaskara wrote:

I have had OO 1.9.x crash on me many many times .... sometimes with complete data loss. I am not saying OO pre 2.0 is bad ...... I use it as my primary office suite and I use it a lot. Once thing I have learnt is to backup date files mannually or check out and checking data files from a versioning system so that I can continue to use pre 2.0 and not loose data.

-G

Daniel Klein wrote:

On 5/11/05, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've had a quick look and found recovery.xcu in the following path on
my machine :
C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application
Data\OpenOffice.org1.9.95\user\registry\data\org\openoffice\Office





Yep, found the file there and it's empty (relatively). Thanks for the help anyway, everyone :)

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