Jim Allan wrote:
NoOp wrote:

As much as I hate to say this, I'd be *very* cautious about promoting
OOo in those environments. And certainly not before understanding what
is already in place in the way of forms used by those departments. Most
municipalities, in particular fire, police, etc., have custom, or
bought, designed forms in MS Word or other, that, at this time simply
cannot be transfered over, or even reasonably used with OOo. A prime
example is:

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There is NO problem with such features at all. This is pure FUDD.

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See the manual at http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/userguide3/index.html and check out chapter 15.

Note that our forms are fully intelligent, using an external language (Foxpro) to guide them. But it could be any computer language. Or I might have been able to do it all through macros. But I had already set up a system to do what I wanted using Visual FoxPro with Microsoft Word, and I just replicated it when first working with OpenOffice.org Writer.

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Try creating and using forms in OpenOffice.org Writer before you complain about defects that exists only if you restrict yourself to clumsy imput fields instead of the proper form objects with which OpenOffice.org provides you.

Jim Allan
Thanks
NoOp, Jim

The problem is, for me, that the City is so secretive about their systems. They fear attacks and hackers, I think. To me, it seems that the City has bought of stuff that use a yearly fee system to keep it up to date and running on their computers. I want to help find the free stuff.

They use Paint.NET already, and really would like to find open source stuff to replace
the paid stuff they are currently using.

My contact told me that they do not have money in the budget to train the staff on new open source software. I told him the best way I found was to have them
try the software (i.e. OpenOffice.org) at home.  Then when they see how easy
it is, plus other things, those staffers would want to use it at work. That is one of
the good ways I have seen myself and heard on this support list.

Try it, you'll like it, does work. I give out a stuffed CD with OOo on it. It is stuffed with the documentation, sample extensions, dictionaries, templates, and any other OOo related stuff I found. Then I also give them a CD stuffed full with other open source software. A few months ago, I gave out several copies of these CDs at a non-profit group's meeting to those who want to help me with their web site work. As the meeting was closing shop, I was approuched by many others who wanted a copy of the free software. I ran out of copies of OOo CDs and open source CDs. The next meeting I gave out to those who did not get a copy during the last meeting. People flock to the offer of free CDs full
of free software.

That is why I hope the guy in charge of technology for the City would take up my offer of giving out the open source software to the key staffers, and others who want it. I do not know how many hundreds of CDs I gave out in 2008. I am willing to give out many more just to get people to join the cause of using Open Source over paying the "big boy" software
companies for the same type of software.

OpenOffice.org is the best product I have ever used. Firefox and Thunderbird are the same.
Now we just have to get the world to see it our way.

Thanks again people

Tim L.
retired and tired of MS, Adobe, etc., etc.,etc...
{ if I did not have my two strokes, I would still be working in the computer field for profit.
 Now I am into not-for-profit work since it suits my schedule better }









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