Mike,
Wow, thanks for the wealth of information. I will get him on trying these
things today. Thanks again.
-Joe


> From: Mike Dawe <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:19:07 +1100
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [users] openoffice 2.4.0 (Mac) AND new issue
> 
> Joe wrote:
>> Mike,
>> Thanks so much for the download info. Actually, I am helping a guy with this
>> problem.  He was able to download OpenOffice 2.1 and install it from the
>> website you provided.
>> 
>> Now there are a couple of issues. Again, this is on an iMac running Panther
>> 10.3.9
>> 
>> 1). He can get OpenOffice 2.1 to open a .pps file (with some finagling) ,
>> but the fonts are so jagged and distorted that they are just about
>> unreadable.
> 
> Ask him if he has his monitor set to thousands of colors or less? If so
> (or no) he should either set his display to millions of colors and/or
> follow this hint from:
> <http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060531063708478>
> 
> "Launch X11 and open the Preferences section. On the Output tab, change
> the Colors pull-down to 'Millions' instead of 'From Display.' Restart X11."
> 
> When he installed OOo 2.1, did he click "yes" to OOo's installer request
> asking if he would like to use the Mac's own fonts? I assume (hope) that
> he would have said yes.
> 
> I installed vers 2.1 onto a Mac running Panther to test it for myself.
> The font rendering in Writer was pretty unsightly. I found that some
> fonts looked better than others. Times New Roman of all fonts was
> particularly awful. But they were legible, just not pretty (kerning or
> the lack of, my biggest issue).
> 
> I then opened a .pps file in OOo ver. 2.1, and the fonts in it were
> perfectly legible (looked much better than in Writer) and easily passed
> inspection. So...
> 
> The .pps file he is trying to open was perhaps created using fonts that
> he does not have installed or available to OOo (they may even be bitmaps
> of fonts and not actual fonts). Ask if all .pps files that he's tried,
> are rendering as badly?
> 
> If his iMac has a G4 cpu, and if he were to upgrade his OS to Tiger he
> could install OOo version 3.0 or newer, which would negate having to use
> X11. Fonts look just as good as on any Mac app in vers. 3.0
> 
> If he can't upgrade he might take a look at NeoOffice which is a Mac
> port of OOo running under Java. It doesn't require X11 and can run on
> Panther or newer. <http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/index.php> I
> can't say how well it works as I have not tried it, myself. It is an
> option that he should be made aware of.
> 
>> 2). Second, he is unable to quit X11 without force quitting it. He does not
>> even have a menu bar up on top for X11.
>> 
>> I told him to run Disk Utility and repair permissions as well as repair the
>> disk--in case that is related to the problem. He will do that tonight, but I
>> thought I'd see if any of you Mac people were familiar with either of these
>> problems.
> 
> I don't get that issue. That is, X11 quits quickly and cleanly on my PPC
> running Panther.
> 
> If by "force quitting" X11, he means that is how he is quitting out of
> OpenOffice, then ask him to exit the (OOo) program first by choosing
> "Exit" from the "File" menu of the front most OOo window, or by typing
> "Ctrl + Q" to quit OOo. He should be able to quit X11 after OOo exits at
> that point by typing "Command + Q".
> 
> But not having a menu bar for X11 indicates that something is either
> wrong with his install or that the Finder or some other running app is
> front most when he decides that he wants to quit X11. Ask him to toggle
> his running apps to see what is running at the time. By holding the
> Command key down and tapping at the tab key, he can cycle through his
> running apps (same as in Windows with Alt + tab keys).
> 
> If he still cannot see an X11 menu bar by toggling through running apps
> then perhaps there is a problem with his install of X11.
> 
>> Thanks again for all of your help.
>> -Joe
> 
> YW Joe.
> 
> -- 
> Mike Dawe
> OOo 3.0.1rc2 MacOSX PPC US English
> 
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