> So, that would then imply that the OOo and ODF world should go back
> over the issue of who has the final say of what the world will/can use
> in file formats.

If interoperability between ODF-using applications is the goal, then yes.


> Should we dump ODF for MS's open format that was
> pushed through the ISO people.

I fail to see the advantage in that. I do think that OOo should
support the OOXML format at at least a rudimentary level, even for
read-only, but I never implied that it should be the default format.
Nor do I see any reason for it.


> That would follow MS's lead.

MS is the dominant player in the market. Who else's lead would you
suggest to follow?


> Of course
> their lead that states that they pushed for their open format to be
> made an ISO, then when it get "certified", MS will not follow the
> "Certified" format's specs, since MS does not control those specs.
>

Actually, the law in many governments states that only products
supporting the ISO formats can be used, therefore, if MS wants
government business it would follow the standards. In fact, that is
exactly what MS is doing.

I think that you are confusing "standards" with "like OOo does".


> "Reference Implementation"?
> I thought that the specifications were the references used, not how
> it looks with some ego tripping company's 600 pound monkey of a
> software.

Exactly. And the specifications state that the MS implementation is just fine.


> All companies should try to make their product read/view
> the ODF format as best as they can from the format's reference/specs/
> documentation/etc.

That is what MS did.


> NOT how someone product determination on how they
> think it should look.

You are not familiar with Amaya, are you? Read a bit on the history of
the reference web browser to understand why a reference implementation
of an ill-defined standard is important.


> That would lead us back to one company, one
> software, telling the rest of the world to do it our way.

Which is exactly what those complaining that MSO does not follow OOo's
ways want. They want MSO to do exactly as Sun (well, Oracle now) say.


> MS tried
> that with the .doc and .docx formats and use Word only.  The "world"
> came up with the ODF ISO and software like OpenOffice.org.
>

I think that you missed a few news items in the past few years. You
might want to research the history of OOXML while you are googling
Amaya.


> I do not want MS telling the rest of the world to do it "our" way
> or "we" will make nasty things happen to you and yours.
>

I think that you are taking this personally.


> I live in a democracy, not a dictatorship.  We vote the leaders in
> and vote them out if we do not like what they are doing.  MS
> wants you to "vote" them into your lives, then you will need
> a lot of knives to cut the MS threads out of your life.
>

The people have voted, and they voted for MSO. Are you not aware that
OOo is a fringe office suite used by a minority?

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Dotan Cohen

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