On 07/27/2009 08:01 PM, msl wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> > On 07/27/2009 04:51 PM, Ian wrote:
>> >
>> >   
>>> >> I belong to a few lists, but I didn't think this was a list.  I follow
>>> >> it on usenet via gmane.   I wasn't aware that it was accessible both
>>> >> ways.  Since you state I am subscribed to the list, I  probably
>>> >> subscribed some time ago and am on some type of "no mail" option.  I
>>> >> only use open office when I have a semester that has classes where a lot
>>> >> of paper writing is required. 
>>> >>
>>> >> So tell me, what is the difference between sending an email to:
>>> >> [email protected] and posting a message to usenet
>>> >> gmane.comp.openoffice.questions ?
>>> >>
>>> >> Ian
>>> >>     
>> >
>> > Ummm... this *is* a list, and gmane.org provides nntp (usenet) access
>> > for *lists*:
>> >
>> > http://gmane.org/about.php
>> > <quote>
>> > This is what Gmane offers. Mailing lists are funneled into news groups.
>> > This isn't a new idea; several mail-to-news gateways exist. What's new
>    
> This reply reminds me of The Church Lady from Saturday Night Live's
> Church Chat series of skits.  She always interviewed her guests with a
> pompous and condescending attitude.  

Never seen it.

It may have not been intended as
> such, but from this end here, this reply sure seems rather
> condescending.  

Perhaps it was somewhat condesending (apologies to Ian). However, Ian
stated:

"I belong to a few lists, but I didn't think this was a list.  I follow
it on usenet via gmane."

 So I was rather surprised when he mentioned that he didn't think this
was a list.

Obviously, technology has blurred the lines between a
> usenet newsgroup and a mailing list.  

No. gmane.org *only* provides feeds for lists, not standard usenet
newsgroups etc. For instance you can't use gmane.org to connect to
alt.comp.linux etc.
http://gmane.org/
<quote with added ^^^>
Gmane is a mailing list archive.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Any public mailing list can be carried by Gmane, but the vast majority
of the lists here deal with free software.

For more information about the project, read the about page.

There are currently 10,359 mailing lists subscribed to Gmane, with a
total of 60,457,704 messages.
</quote>

It someone subsribes to this list via gmane, they've either purposely
done so from an already set up nntp news.gmane.org, or using:
http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html
<quote>
Newsgroups

For those who prefer to use newsgroups rather than e-mail mailing lists,
there are the Gmane newsgroups. For more information on Gmane, contact
Gmane. To correspond via newsgroups, you can use open-source
command-line clients, Mozilla, or many other clients. The Gmane server
address is:

    * news.gmane.org
 .
 .
 .
news://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.questions
</quote>

Perhaps not the best analogy but
> similar to the difference between a "newsreader" and an "email" program.

I missed the "analogy", and also miss understanding what you believe to
be a "pompous and condescending attitude". Simply clarifying the gmane
connection (IMO) isn't a "pompous and condescending attitude". You
learned something, Ian learned something, etc., etc.

> I had no idea certain lists were also available via usenet.  I guess it
> is true - you do learn something new every day!

(BTW: I've always used gmane for posting and reading this list).






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