On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Brian Barker<[email protected]> wrote:
> You seem not to have any replies to this: I suspect that you have given
> insufficient information for anyone to help.
>
> At 12:21 19/08/2009 +0530, you wrote:
>>
>> In OpenOffice Writer 3.0, the text for a paragraph [1] flows over across
>> to the next page ...
>
> For text to flow to the next page when appropriate is quite normal, of
> course.
>
>> ... way beyond the page margins [2].
>
> Sorry, but I don't see this.  All the text I can see is within the text
> area, as shown by the thin grey line.  Why do you say it is beyond?  You
> mean that it is too far down the page?

See Pict [1]: after a single carriage return [Enter]. the text
(beginning with "Get into Groups" ... ) should fall on the first line
of the next page; what actually happens is shown in Pict [2] (goes way
beyond the first line and well into the next page).

>
>> I tried setting the paragraph options > Spacing (above & below paragraph),
>> both to 0 [3], but still the text overflows even after only a single
>> carriage return.
>
> The big question - on which you are keeping quiet - is exactly what is
> causing that large gap between paragraphs.  Whether you want the gap or not,
> you ought to know - and be telling the list - how you have created this.

I have not created the gap b/w the paras; I don't know how that
paragraph-gap got created; that is what I want to trouble-shoot.

>> Is there a way to fix this ?
>
> You cannot fix something unless you know what the problem is, and I don't
> yet see anything wrong.
>
> Are you just trying to put the new section, with its heading, at the top of
> the next page?  And are you doing this by pressing Enter a number of times -
> in other words, adding a number of empty paragraphs?  That works on a
> typewriter, but you are not using a typewriter!  If you do this, what
> happens if you then add a little material somewhere in the first four pages?
>  The alignment to the top of page 5 goes all awry!  To move to a new page,
> put the cursor at the end of the existing material and go to Insert | Manual
> Break... | Page break.

There is neither a section nor page break introduced, and 'Enter' is
keyeed only once.

> I wonder whether what you mean is that, having got the document as your
> first picture, adding a single empty paragraph (pressing Enter once) changes
> to your second picture. instead of putting the text at the top of the new
> page.

Yes that is the problem.

> (Remember that you get this problem only because you are going about
> things the wrong way.)  The space that will be occupied by an empty
> paragraph depends on the character and paragraph properties - and style
> properties - of *those empty paragraphs*, not of the paragraphs you can see
> and are trying to position.  If those empty paragraphs have large spacings
> set either before or after them or if their font size is set particularly
> large, then each empty paragraph will occupy a large space - potentially
> creating the effect you see.  And note that if you press Enter after such a
> paragraph, Writer will - helpfully! - create another paragraph wit the same
> properties.

I don't get the part about an empty paragraph having a style/ properties.

What I have tried to do is to select the current para & the one
preceding it and then ensuring that the spacing 'Above para' and
'Below para' is 0 (Pict 3] - this used to do the needful (mostly) in
Word XP. But I have not been able to find a solution in OO-Writer.
(Pl Note:  there is no large spacing either before or after the para
and the font sizes are the same.)

I can get the first line of the para (Get in Groups ...) upto the 2nd
line of the next page, but not the first line of next page; and am
managing with that.
This does not happen with all documents, but especially when I have
copy-pasted formatted (HTML) text from a webpage.
If it is relevant, I have set the upper, lower, right & left page
margins to about 0.5" so as to accommodate more text on a single page.
These are my page settings [4].

Thanks,

Jay

Images
[1] http://www.imagebam.com/image/03693a45913111
[2] http://www.imagebam.com/image/714e8d45913112
[3] http://www.imagebam.com/image/5155a045913113
[4] http://www.imagebam.com/image/b9c68b46442014

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