Cor Nouws wrote:
> Lars,
>
> Lars Nooden wrote (16-9-2009 15:35)
>
>> In that mail it looks like he writes about attempting to dodge or
>> camouflage the issue by calling the activity by a different name.
>>
>> Your suggestion to gather data seems different and very unrelated to
>> Mathhias' apparent proposal to copy 'The Ribbon', as far as I can see.
>
> Pls see Matthias' reply in the thread. And believe it. Or not.
Oh, I belevie Matthias' reply alright. That's the one where he affirms
intent to copy "the ribbon" but lower the profile by using other naming
for it.
>> Gathering usability data is a good idea if it leads away from the
>> complexity and inconsistency of context-sensitive buttons.
>>
>> There are a lot of low hanging fruit to pick on the UI tree.
>
> You are free to contribute on as many topics and as much as you like.
> But pls don't shoot the people that make different choices than you
> would do.
Sorry fresh out of wadcutters and dumdums. Would you settle for a few
mercury loads? They're not as green though.
I'm not talking about those who make 'different choices'
I am talking about those who actively shit in a good project.
Most of the IT problems we have are because people like you were allowed
to get away with dragging things down.
> Speaking for my own: I see the whole world changing with all kind of new
> interfaces.
Bleeeeaaat. Bleeeeaaat. Blleeeeaaaat. Says MS marketing. MS is
inevitable, resistance is futile. Yadda yadda.
See Exhibit 3096 here in either text or PDF, two paragraphs up from "the
slog" on page 9:
http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20071023002351958
Next you'll talk about touch screens. Or interactiveness. Bleating
that every project must stop, turn around and follow tail-end charlie is
asinine and shows that someone bought into too much marketing.
> So I don't see any problem at all in taking a fundamental
> look at ours.
Which is what *everyone* here seems to agree on. However, looking at
the interface is not the same as giving a carte blanch to copy a failure
like 'the ribbon'
> On the contrary: ignoring the changing world does not seem
> a good idea to me. And am happy that I can give my comments and ask my
> questions on the work in progress.
Again, see the sheep paragraph and other paragraphs above.
The UI needs work, especially in Impress, but even more so in Impress.
It can be built up and improved. Or it can go the way of "the ribbon"
-Lars
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