On 09/27/2009 04:43 PM, John Kaufmann wrote:
Andrew,

Ordinarily I hate top-posting over an unedited post, but yours was such a remarkable answer that I need to depart from my usual policy of replying in interleaved comments to tightly-edited, focused thoughts. It was particularly remarkable because it is concurrent with your reply to another question I had, about enclosing a list within a paragraph, in which you joined Joe Smith's advice to put the list in a frame anchored as a character. Why remarkable? Because both cases had led me to some doubt about the adequacy of Writer's object-oriented model, and in both cases you have finessed the model, beyond the "official" tools, by making your own tools. I have not decided whether such outside-the-box approaches make me further doubt the document model or make me respect its robustness, but they have sure given me something to think about...

I assume that this sort of thing is expected from OOo. The more I use OOo, the more it appears that many of these items were designed for just such things. It also appears as though the "average" user does not use OOo to anywhere near its full potential. The most prevalent reason is likely that they have no need. When I write a letter or very simple document, there is rarely need for specific styles; it suffices to hard code the formatting where desired. While planning large scale documents, however, the need becomes greater.

AndrewMacro.odt is now sufficiently large with sufficiently complex formatting, that I use more instances of specific styles than is supported by OOo. The end result is that OOo crashes if you open my document and then close it. I may, therefore, out of necessity, become more acquainted with master documents.



They have also provided relatively efficient ways of handling those situations. In this case, I'm not sure whether your alternative approach to captioning is one for which I should edit my current document (a lot of pictures and captions), but it certainly looks like the way forward, and should be included in the "Working with Graphics" document.

Thank you,
John
I wrote a macro for the OOo Authors that removes images from frames while retaining the caption. I used it on a few documents with no problems. I might be able to find it again...

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