On 10/02/2009 02:35 PM, John Kaufmann wrote:
In a message dated 2009.10.02 13:20 -0500, Joe Smith wrote:
In WordPerfect, even with such a structured list (what WordPerfect calls
an "Outline"), one can "Indent" after any list member to a common point
on the line, as shown above. I have been wasting a lot of time trying to
see how to do this kind of annotation with Writer; can anyone offer a
suggestion?
My first thought was along the line already suggested by Barbara: Use
a table. It makes setting up and adjusting the layout much more
straightforward, and you can make the left column a list, if you want.
Joe, that's what I did not see about Barbara's suggestion: how to make
the left column a list, while maintaining logical/spatial relationship
to the notes in the right column. I know it's dense of me, but can you
help me see that point?
Writer's lists are little odd. As far as the user sees, there is no
'list', just a set of paragraphs that are labeled consistently. The
items in a list can just as well appear in separate table cells, or
spread over the entire document. The items are simply paragraphs and
they can appear anywhere a paragraph can appear and still be labeled
consistently.
So it's easy here: Each table row has a list element in the left cell
and the corresponding description in the right cell.
However, it is possible--though somewhat fiddly---to use plain
numbered paragraphs, since numbering layout works by formatting its
paragraph with a hanging indent, with the list label in the indent. In
your case, the list label is empty, and you type the tag and the tab
following.
Let me make sure I understand this [which looks like one of the things I
tried]:
- Make a Paragraph style "Stuctured list";
- Go to "Outline & Numbering" tab to select:
- - as "Numbering Style", my List style "List without bullets";
- - as "Outline level"... what? As the list is hierarchical, can I
choose any level other than "Boby text"?
Or is your suggestion related to:
Tools | AutoCorrect | Options: "Apply numbering - symbol:*"
Nothing at all to do with AutoCorrect or the "Outline level". And you
don't necessarily need a separate paragraph style: the formatting you
describe is all configured and provided by the numbering style.
By 'numbering "Position" settings', you mean the "Position" tab in the
List (Numbering) style, correct? - and your point is that that does not
sync with the "Indents & Spacing" settings of the Paragraph style which
includes the List style, correct? If so, that was my finding also - but
then I also did not see how to maintain the list hierarchy indentations.
It's a complex interaction; I thought I had it sorted out, but now I'm
not exactly sure how it all fits together. But, for your situation, the
list formatting can provide all the layout necessary. You don't need any
special settings on the paragraph side.
Thank you so much for doing that - but it looks like the /hierarchical/
listing is lost; is that correct?
No extra work, really. I have to actually try stuff to see what happens.
I don't understand what you mean by 'hierarchical', beside outline-style
indentation, which is still there when I view it.
<Joe
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