McLauchlan, Kevin wrote:
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From: Barbara Duprey [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [users] Request for assistance

James Knott wrote:
michael considine wrote:
I hope you receive my message? And is very urgent. I could barely think straight at this point. I had a trip here in United
Kingdom
on a mission. I am presently in Sheffield and I am having some difficulties. I misplaced my bag on my way to the hotel
where other
valuable things were kept along with my passport. I feel
so ashamed
because i am so stranded and idle. I will like you to
help me with a
loan of 1000pounds to pay my hotel bills and also return
back home. I
will refund the money to you as soon as I get back, I
have spoken to
the embassy here but they are not responding to the matter effectively I currently have limited access to emails for now.

A thousand pounds of what???  May I make a suggestion?   ;-)
This is the same guy (or bot) who keeps telling us to unsubscribe him but pays no attention to the reply.

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Ordinarily, I'd trim off the administrivia, but it's so apropo just now...

Um, maybe the guy is so frustrated at the failure of the unsubscribe instructions to work for him that he's punishing us by forwarding phishing spam?

There are some real problems that can interfere with unsubscribing, and I know he's been given full explanations and solutions for them at least twice from me, and who knows from how many others?
I'm sure it's not his problem, but I had a problem with this list and some 
others a few years ago, when my company merged with another and changed our 
e-mail address scheme. They continued accepting inbound e-mails to the old 
address for a couple of years, but the outgoing mail switched over to show it 
coming from the new address.  Guess how easy that made it to confirm anything 
to the list server.  :-)

Yes -- this is definitely one of the true problems. The messages from the list are coming to an account that is not subscribed from an old account that was, so no matter how often the command is sent to [email protected] from the new account, it won't work. The solution is messy but should be workable.
In some cases there was a webbish alternative for making account changes.... but that still resulted in a confirmation request being sent to the original address. Lotsa fun. In some cases, it took months to finally get straightened out, and needed help from the list server admin.

Did the old address pass the list messages, but not the confirmation messages, to the new address? If the new address gets the confirmation message, it can reply, and it doesn't matter that the response is not coming from the subscribed account because the "To" address for the reply contains the indirect form of the subscriber's account. So something else is going on here, and I'd like more info -- off-list, please.
 - Kevin

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