On 2/13/10, Brewster Gillett <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 22:28 -0600, Troll/Idiot wrote:
>> Well, Brewster, you've chewed it over at some length on several
>> occasions.  Get used to the idea that given the same facts, different
>> people will reach different conclusions, equally valid.
>
> bg:
>
> I'm familiar with that possibility. I am also well able to understand
> that there are only two possible interpretations of the typical cursor
> positioning in "REPLY" mode, and a careful assessment of both
> choices makes it abundantly plain which one is superior.
> Life presents us with a pattern of differential choices whose
> relative worth is plain to see for those who bother to examine them.
>
> Something that those of the "Whatever!" generations seem to consider
> way too much hard work for them. It's a lot easier to fall back on
> meaningless psychobabble bromides like "different people will reach
> different conclusions, equally valid."
>
> I am painfully aware that, in the 21st century, we are inundated with
> people who have been carefully indoctrinated to believe that all points
> of view are equally valid, and that all human beings deserve respect
> solely based in their ability to draw breath. That the most horrific
> possible outcome might be that something, or someone, could be shown
> to be superior to something, or someone, else.
>
> You'll pardon me if I reject that shit out of hand :-)
>
> Troll:
>
>> Some people, more experienced than you in email lists and internet forums,
>> find top
>> posting preferable.  It's not just the newbies, the ignorant and the
>> inexperienced.
>
> bg:
>
> Whatever gave you the idea that you know what my level of experience is?
> I first used email in 1981, and first used elists/forums in about the
> middle Eighties. I have never encountered anyone with a similar length
> of exposure who prefers top-posting. You would be the first. Assuming
> you go back that far.
>
> By the way, my email software, a widely used and well-established open
> source program, specifically says, under "Composer Preferences",
> that top posting is "not recommended".
>
>> Troll/Idiot
>> Have a nice day.  Don't expect everyone else to think like you do.
>
> bg:
>
> You really are hilarious, and seem to have drawn your argumentative
> structures from your days in preschool. It is not a matter of expecting
> people to "think like [I] do". It is a matter of expecting them
> to think logically, and expecting them to exert a little mindfulness
> as to how their work impacts their fellow Net users.
>
> Now, suppose you explain to me how much sense this three-element
> interleave would have made had it been written in reverse order.
>
> Top-posting is about laziness, and about ignorance, and about having
> a tin ear when it comes to the more subtle nuances of communications.
>
> All of which tend towards, if not limited to, those with the least
> experience of the Net and its group activities. You are fighting a
> losing battle, philosophically, and your adversaries in the war, in the
> aggregate, are vastly more experienced, not just at the Net, but
> apparently at life, than you.
>
> The fact that you may have millions of AOLers, and Yahooers,  MSNers
> and gmailers at your back, these days, still does not make yours the
> correct position.
>
>
> Brewster
>
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