Hi All,
sorry I'm late on this discussion, just returned from vacation.
Anyway, Impress does not have character or paragraph styles. The
main reason for this was not to complicate things. Therefore the
character and paragraph settings for the shape styles (graphic &
presentation) are used for the text inside a shape.
No character or paragraph styles means that you can't assign a
different style to parts of a shapes text that is not equal to
the style applied to the shape itself.
An exception is the presentation outline shape which sets the
styles outline1 to outline9 to each paragraph depending on the
paragraphs indend.
Personaly I'm undecided wheter it is a good idea to add such
functionality to impress. I can see the benefits of having
character and paragraph styles in impress like we have in writer
now. On the other hand there are still a majority of users who
do not (want to/need to) understand the current style concept.
Adding more options would only add to the confusion. Apple's Keynote
for example is mostly praised for its simplicity, mainly because
it lacks so many features...
Regards,
Christian
Am 25.05.2010 08:06, schrieb John Kaufmann:
Hi Michele,
In a message dated 2010.05.24 07:18 -0500, Michele Zarri wrote:
Unfortunately there is not an equivalent to character style in
Impress which would be useful for the in-line linux commands that
you mentioned, ...
(a) Do you happen to know why that is?
(b) Trying to understand OO's design philosophy for styles, I have been
stumped by the inclusion of character attributes - without reference
to a
character style - in paragraph styles. I have found nothing in the
documentation discussing why that is, or more generally how OO scopes a
style class. Do you know of a good discussion of this topic?
I do not have the answers to your questions, Hopefully Christian
Lippka who heads the development of the graphics project and who
sometimes reads this list will be able to shed some light as to why,
given the claim that OOo is built around a common core set of
functionalities, character styles exist in Writer and not in Impress.
Yes. If he does not see this, maybe a personal message would be in order
- although I suspect that, leading the graphics project, he can only
provide part of the answers. I like the way you frame the presumptive
context, that "OOo is built around a common core set of
functionalities". In that context, the question is larger than Impress.
I would love to see an authoritative paper on these questions, or hear a
knowledgeable cross-section of OO designers discuss these style issues
at the most basic and general level of cross-application design philosophy.
BTW, I provided the wrong link before, here's the correct one [1].
[1] http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=19340.
Thanks for the correction.
Maybe it would make sense to re-open [2] which was marked as duplicate
of 19340 but that was more "focussed" on this particular issue (and
still has 6 votes :-) ).
[2] http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=57296
I agree that [2] is not really a duplicate of [1], but I can see the
logic of thinking that if [1] is provided, it should serve as a basis
for [2]. The problem will be whether [1] - and especially its eventual
solution - is sufficiently general to provide the basis for [2] and
other issues like it. Again, I wonder whether there is a general paper
on how OO style classes are scoped.
John
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