Hi Michele,

In a message dated 2010.06.03 03:37 -0500, Michele Zarri wrote:

I couldn't help noticing the "I forgot how to do page numbering" thread.
After using Open Office for over 5 years I still have to pause to think
my way through page numbering.  I am not the only one. It seems to be a
frequent topic on the list. ...

True that page numbering is not intuitive, but that is the price you pay for the flexibility you get by linking the page numbering to a page style. If all you want do is to put a page number at the bottom (or top) of a simple document you may want to install the Pagination extension [1], which allows also other common tasks such as skipping the number of the first page, but that can potentially wreck the page styles of your document.

In another recent thread, on Impress, you argued [correctly IMHO] that styles are not inherently a complicating factor. Indeed, styles are introduced to normalize - and simplify - common tasks by abstracting class attributes. Yet William is right about page numbering, and other routine word processing tasks (like envelopes and outlining) subsumed under styles, being frequent topics on this list. If extensions to facilitate those routine tasks wreck styles, maybe one problem is that the style classes are not adequately grounded.

For example, numbering is a page attribute, but one that may be inherited from a document and a presentation medium (paper => pages). There might be multiple page styles in a document, but one might reasonably want them to share common page numbering attributes. Similar considerations apply to envelopes as a page style and hierarchical paragraph styles (whether of the kinds used in Writer or as used in Impress). So we may revisit these questions as OO's document models mature (soon, I hope).

John

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