Ken,
I really don't want to subscribe to another list to continue this dialogue, i.e., [email protected], but we have drifted outside the realm of the users list. If you want to continue off list, just don't change the subject line or my filters will frag your email.

ken green wrote:
On 2005-09-13 11:33 PM, Doug Thompson wrote:

Not so. But I didn't see anyone so committed to their suggestions for improvements that they offered to (help) rewrite the documentation.


I don't know if offering to help rewrite the documentation merits sentiments that anyone who disagrees with your suggestion has a narrow view of the problem.

That isn't what I said.  My statement was
"Third, anyone who thinks this suggestion is any more outrageous than any of the others for correcting the problem of willful ignorance has a very narrow view of the problem. " which you correctly quoted earlier.

In fact, I agreed with much of what you wrote. But I happen to think forcing a user to take a quiz is outrageous. We are talking about people who are primarily non-technical and/or lazy. Do you really think people that don't bother to read instructions would take a quiz just to install software? I don't see that furthering the idea of spreading OpenOffice.

It is my intent to be outrageous because there is no solution to willful ignorance, a phrase which I think I coined to describe the ultimate state of intellectual laziness. Quizzes, documentation, help files, all of these, are wasted effort to people who have decided they don't want to learn, only to be spoon fed. It's the intellectual equivalent to having Mommy cut up your food so you can eat. Looking at it from the other side, Gates & Co. could be described as Supermom. That they contributed to the condition for the past 25 years or so by producing convoluted and essentially useless documents and help files that fortified the notion that computers and computer programs are too complicated to be understood by "normal" people merely cemented their claim to the title.


All this "intellectual discussion" was doing was contribute to global warming. Metaphorically speaking, of course.


Maybe. But I do hope something gets done. In order for OpenOffice to become widely accepted by the masses it needs to become widely acceptable to the masses. A quiz of computer knowledge (and that's likely how many will interpret it) would only further the idea that OOo is by geeks for geeks - i.e. you have to know this much just to use the program.


Hope is not an action verb. And apparently buried too deep in my post was one of my pet rants: _*BETA*_ software is too dangerous to be placed in the hands of people who choose to be ignorant, like the nimrod who made all those outrageous statements that started this thread.

DT

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