Hmm. Could be, I've been wrong before. My Linux systems are
double-booted and in the middle of other "stuff" at the moment, so I
won't be able to provide examples to argue or agree for a bit.

Your example of Evolution is a good use-model.

While most apps do have their own environment, most also share system
environment variables. That is why many so environment variables get
set in the .cshrc/.bashrc/.profile/... Apps tend to have their own
configuration spaces and to be sensitive to system environment
variables and sensitive to kernel options. Like any over complicated
system, there are "Too Many Options" (tm) options.

On the other hand, you have already made the best of the "opportunity"
to better state your use-model request for the users mail list
archives. You certainly can also follow CPH's feature request steps,
so maybe it is already mission-accomplished and further discussion on
this forum isn't going to accomplish much for the world of OOo users.



On 10/9/05, J.L. Blom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John, I think you're in error.
> E.g. in Evolution, when you want to attach a file to a message the
> directories are default presented without the hidden directories. Using
> the right button of the mouse gives a popup window where can be chosen
> to display hidden directories.
> It is the application that sets the switch, not the windowmanager. As
> Unix user for over 15 years I am rather familiar with the command line
> syntax of the different shells and with window managers. An application
> in Unix has his own environment. It must therefore explicitly, either in
> the properties or options settings or else in individual actions (see
> Evolution) have a command to make hidden files (and directories) to be
> presented as default is hidden off.
> Linux is a completely different OS from Windows as it is multiuser and
> multitasking with a completely different memory and file management
> (e.g. no registry structure although the graphic shell GNOME mimics it
> somewhat) therefore your referral to the Windows way of file management
> has no relevance for Linux. I will surely confess that my Windows
> experience is very limited but in Unix I'm reasonably experienced and
> think therefore that my remark is relevant.
>
> Joep
>
> On Sun, 2005-10-09 at 14:11 -0700, john geldman wrote:
> > On 10/9/05, G. Roderick Singleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2005-10-09 at 17:55 +0200, J.L. Blom wrote:
> > > > I just discovered an annoying omission in OOo2.0 RC1.
> > > > I want in Linux to approach hidden directories (directories starting
> > > > with a dot (e.g. .evolution). However, the users guide doesn't give any
> > > > information (neither Help). Is it not possible??. Than I think its value
> > > > - for Linux users - is seriously diminished as many files (a.o.
> > > > databases and address databases0 are most often stored in hidden
> > > > directories. As Linux has a decent directory mechanism there must be an
> > > > explicit switch, preferably in the options menu, to set the display of
> > > > hidden files on or off.
> > > > In my opinion it is a serious bug.
> > > > Joep
> > >
> > > If you are serious, please enter an issue into Issue
> > > Tracker as this is the best way to have problems such as this evaluated.
> > >
> > > If you haven't already registered, do the following:
> > >
> > >      1. To file an issue you must register with OOo by clicking the
> > >         My Pages tab and selecting the Register link
> > > http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/Join
> > >      2. Fill in your information
> > >      3. Reply to the confirmation email that will be sent to the address
> > >         you provided.
> > >      4. Once you have confirmed, go to www.openoffice.org again
> > >      5. And click on the "My Pages" tab from which you can file and find
> > > issues.
> > >
> > > Thanks for bringing this to our attention. It is important that you file
> > > any examples with the issue to ensure your need is understood.
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> > Joep
> >
> > I'm a little confused about why you are asking about basic Linux
> > capabilities in an application. This is typically a user or window
> > manager configuration option.
> >
> > Also, I'm a little bemused by your windows approach to linux. The
> > first thing two things I do in windows systems is to have it tell me
> > the whole names of files (not hide the extension) and not hide
> > directories. I guess I am a "power-hungry" user.
> >
> > The closest equivalent in Linux to hidden directories are those that
> > begin with an "."
> > These will only be displayed with the "ls -a" CLI command. The ls
> > command can be easily aliased to include or not include this parameter
> > (aliasing syntax changes with different shells such as bash, csh, sh,
> > ...).
> >
> > Your window manager (KDE or GNOME or ...) will have options for a such
> > a switch for its graphical file manager application.
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