Should this thread be moved to "discuss", since it seems like this is neither asking nor answering anyone's questions?

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From: Howard Coles Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 09:52:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [users]  Re: bloody rpm's only

 On Sunday 23 October 2005 09:34 pm, Randomthots wrote:
Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 08:35:55 -0400
>
> "G. Roderick Singleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 18:15 -0700, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
>>>On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:14:17 -0500
>>>
>>>John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>On 2005-10-22, Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>Yes I know alien works, but.............
>>>>>
>>>>>with the original installer, the user had control as to where
>>>>>OO was installed. Now I have to rely on where the brain-dead
>>>>>RPM wants to install the program, leaving me out of the loop.
>>>>>It goes where it wants to , not where I want it to go.
>>>>
>>>>Don't the "--prefix" or "--relocate" switches work for you? Check
>>>>"man rpm"
>>>
>>>why should I downgrade to RPM's when the previous installer work
>>>wonderfully, allowing the placement where "I" choose in the
>>>directory "I" choose.
>>>
>>>Not the packager.
>>
>>HUH?  You can do this using rpms. I do not understand the problem.
>>Installing to another location is covered in

>>http://documentation.openoffice.org/setup_guide2/2.x/en/SETUP_GUIDE.pdf

>>and even shows how to use other tools. Try it. Just because it was
not
>>included in the download image should preclude you from getting it
and
>>making use of any of the methods described therein.
>
> The problem?
> 1.4 installer -   where do you want to install the program
> user - /opt (or whever - could be /home)
> 1.4 installer - what directory do you want to install this into
> user - OpenOffice
> 1.4 installer - no directory by that name. shall I create it?
> user - yes
>
> The problem with the current use of RPM's, I have no control over
the
> exact location to install OO.
>
> I choose /opt, but I want the directory to be called what I want it
to
> be called, not what the rpm package maintainer wants it to be
called.

I'm sorry, but I've just had enough. Untold thousands of programmer
man-hours have been invested to provide you -- free of charge and free
of licensing restrictions -- a very high quality office suite that is
perfectly usable on your Linux system.

And you want to whine about little friggin' details like that???!!!

Get a life already.

So, is this it? When your arguments for RPM are proven substandard you cower behind programmers' thousands of hours? If that's your mentality you are no
better than MS!

I translate your attitude, "you should just take what we give you and be happy you have it." No, I contend that it was those same programmers who created
the original installer in the first place and spoiled us with their
excellence. The fact is that there was NO excuse for going RPM and hundreds if not thousands of OOo customers want an installer. People running non-RPM based distributions do not want to be treated like second class citizens, especially debian, or its derivitives, users considering they may well be one fourth the population of Linux users. The question now on the table is this: Are OOo folks going to listen to their customers or, are they going to shove
what they want down the customers throat?


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See Ya'
Howard Coles Jr.
John 3:16!

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