On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 20:20:50 -0500, G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 13:07 -0600, Craig Herman wrote: >> OK. I'll try. But I don't have any estimate of when I will finish. >> >> Craig >> >> > Thanks. > > In the meantime I have asked the project which maintains the thesaurus the > following: > > >> Any chance a bowlderized or cleaned up thesaurus existing now. I ask >> because a school teacher has encountered a problem with the thesaurus >> that is distributed where the f-word in its many forms is offered as a >> synonym. >> >> Failing that how to clean up easily? > > > Hope we get a definitive answer. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: G. Roderick Singleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: >> Friday, November 18, 2005 11:49 AM To: [email protected] >> Cc: Craig Herman >> Subject: RE: [users] Profanity in the dictionary and thesaurus >> >> >> Craig, >> >> For an interim solution, I suggest that you remove/dusable the thesaurus >> at least until you can edit the file and get a working one. You can do >> this by removing the line >> THES en US th_en_US_v2 >> from <wherever>/openoffice.org2.0/share/dict/ooo/dictionary.lst >> >> On my system, simply commenting out the line and restarting OOo is >> sufficient. >> >> Good luck on Bowlderizing. >> >> Do try this by editing both th_en_US_v2.dat and th_en_US_v2.idx for >> your list of banned words. >> >> If you are successful, perhaps you could donate these to the project so >> others may avoid the problem you are having. If you like I will create >> an issue to which you can attach the files. >> >> >> On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 11:17 -0600, Craig Herman wrote: >> > Type "mishandle" and look at the fourth term from the bottom. It >> > gives "f**k up" as a synonym. That was the real problem that I had. >> > On the other hand, if you type "f**k up" and look up a synonym in the >> > thesaurus, it gives good suggestions as alternates. I guess that >> > makes it sort of even. I checked MS Word. If you misspell "f**k", it >> > marks it as incorrect. If you look up "f**k" or "f**k up", it gives >> > no suggestions. What would be better is to not give "f**k up" as a >> > synonym, but to give synonyms for "f**k up" if asked. After checking >> > further, look up "motherf**ker" and see what you get. >> > >> > Craig >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Robert Volke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November >> > 18, 2005 10:15 AM To: [email protected] >> > Subject: RE: [users] Profanity in the dictionary and thesaurus >> > >> > >> > The only instance I'd see this being an issue for a school would be if >> > you typed in botch and you got f*ck up suggested as a synonym. I >> > checked and in fact f*ck up is not suggested at all. The only >> > instance in which it comes up is if the user types it, and in that >> > case it suggests synonyms. Why shouldn't the software offer the kids >> > nice alternatives to otherwise nasty words? Isn't this your original >> > concern anyway? If the kids already know the word enough to spell it >> > correctly, then I think censoring the dictionary is going to be >> > fruitless. That's my two cents. Good luck with the distribution, >> > personally I hope more schools begin using OpenOffice as I think they >> > can benefit the most from its use. >> > >> > Robert >> > >> > >>> "Craig Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/18/05 8:04 AM >>> >> > I'm not necessarily trying to be a censor. What I was really concerned >> > about was being forced to remove OpenOffice.org from the computers in >> > my classroom because of those words. I looked them up in a school >> > dictionary and they were there also, so I doubt it will be an issue. >> > However, I still think a user should have the ability to remove or add >> > words and/or phrases from the dictionary and thesaurus if they want >> > to. >> > >> > Craig >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Wangshanpo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, >> > November 18, 2005 7:29 AM To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [users] Profanity in the dictionary and thesaurus >> > >> > >> > Martin S wrote: >> > > 2005/11/18, Craig Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > > >> > >> The word f**k and the expression "f**k up" are in the dictionary >> > >> and >> > >> > >> thesaurus. Is it possible to remove these? I have tried, but I have >> > >> > >> been unsuccessful. I would like to use these at my school, but with >> > >> > >> these words in the dictionary, I don't think that will be possible. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > Interesting. >> > > My sons school has a policy against profanity in school. However, no >> > >> > > one has ever come up with the idea of censoring the Word >> > dictionaries. >> > > Children pick up these words weather you like or not, so it's fairly >> > >> > > pointless in trying to censor dictionaries. And if they still use >> > them >> > > in texts, they might as well spell them correctly. >> > > >> > > Personally I'd be very reluctant to start practicing censorship - >> > > you >> > >> > > never know where it ends. >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > >> > > Martin S >> > > >> > > >> > Craig asked a very simple function/operation related question but see >> > how it ferreted out those whose moral judgement is evidently better >> > than the rest. >> > Intriguing! >> >
No answer but I found some tools to help. Those who need a Bowlderized theasaurus can get it from http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=58451 -- Documentation Co-lead "Dinna meddle wi' things ye ken nuthin' aboot!" J.H. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
