----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jonathon Coombes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [users] Re: Hanging indent: How to avoid


> On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 12:09 +1100, Max Haltermann wrote:
>> Hi Jonathon,
>> 
>> An Acorn platform application called !Impression.
>> It not only did most routine jobs but also was the
>> most user friendly writing program. One had access
>> to all the formatting codes in a plain text editor as well.
> 
> By formatting codes do you mean like the reveal codes
> under Wordperfect?

I don't understand 'reveal codes' but Impression codes
were more like what I've seen in HTML, i.e. 
{bold} and {bold off}. For example re my last posting
 
Re: Hanging indent: How to avoid
With a simple text editor
I could just use find/replace to remove all tabs and
spaces and replace with the 3 tabs required. Before
and between the names and numbers as well.

>> It had not only styles you could create but also
>> effects, which allowed individual action on words or
>> segments of an applied style. Many useful features
> 
> Sounds like character styles here?
> 
>> are available via Shift/n presses on the keyboard.
> 
> Styles as of OOo 2.0 are able to be applied using keyboard
> shortcuts such as Shift-X or Control-X etc.
> 
>> Type teh instead of the; put the cursor between the
>> e and h, press the relevant combination and the letters
>> transpose.
> 
> This is done for you automatically in OpenOffice.org :)

Automatics can be a pain when not wanted.

>>  Put the cursor in front of any word and
>> press CTRL/s and the first letter changes from lower
>> case to upper or vise versa. Highlight any group of
> 
> OK. Not in OOo, but it does the sentence capitals by default.
> This could be done quite easily with a simple macro and a
> shortcut key assigned to it.

Why should I have to learn programming when I have a
program already?

>> words or lines; press CTRL/r and spacing will evenly
>> reduce, CTRL/e and the reverse happens.
> 
> Hmmm... This could be an interesting feature addition.
> Again, it could be done using a macro with shortcut, but
> it may be a useful addition for people.
> 
>> On top of that the Acorn O/S is very user friendly
>> as well.....
>> I'd better stop right now or crocodile tears will
>> be the next event :-)
> 
> Just out of curiosity, I did not think many Acorns made it to
> Australia, just the Amiga. Were you in Australia at the time
> when you used the Acorn?

Amigas were mainly hobby computers, AFAIK, Acorns were 
used in all schools from primary to university. They were the
truly first 32 bit desktop computers in the world! Poor
marketing let them die. :-(( 
I still prefer to use my Acorn whenever possible.
Max.
 
> Regards
> Jonathon
> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jonathon Coombes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 11:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: [users] Re: Hanging indent: How to avoid
>> 
>> 
>> > On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 11:30 +1100, Max Haltermann wrote:
>> >> Hi Jean,
>> >> Thanks for your reply. The methode you described worked
>> >> fine on my 10 year old word processor but is tedious to use.
>> >> With some experimenting I found that by using
>> >> Shift/Enter a new line is entered, already lined up with the
>> >> text part of the first line with hanging indent, so making
>> >> it even easier to use.
>> >
>> > Hi Max,
>> >
>> > I am curious as to what your 10 year old word processor was/is
>> > that you mention? It sounds like you are saying that using
>> > styles is outdated? Well, styles are actually the way things
>> > are being done now, not just in OpenOffice.org, but also in
>> > other applications, web pages etc.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Jonathon
>> >
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Jean Hollis Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: <[email protected]>
>> >> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 7:44 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: Hanging indent: How to avoid
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Max Haltermann wrote,
>> >> >
>> >> >> Using Openoffice I often start with a date followed by 2-3
>> >> >> lines of text reporting about events past.
>> >> >> Formatted as hanging indent the date is as intended on the
>> >> >> extreme left of the page as desired. But when I type the
>> >> >> rest of the text I would like the text to line up with the
>> >> >> top line, NOT the hanging indent. How do I do that?
>> >> >
>> >> > Hello from another Aussie!
>> >> >
>> >> > When you say "the rest of the text", do you mean other
>> >> > paragraphs, not part of the paragraph with the hanging indent?
>> >> >
>> >> > If so, you need to use a different paragraph style for the
>> >> > paragraphs without the indent. You can either choose one of the
>> >> > existing paragraph styles (and modify it as needed) or create a
>> >> > new one. You can then set the style for the hanging-indent
>> >> > paragraphs to be "followed by" the style for the paragraphs
>> >> > without an indent; if you do that, then when you hit Enter at the
>> >> > end of the hanging-indent paragraph, the next paragraph will
>> >> > automatically have the other style. However, you will have to
>> >> > manually select the hanging-indent style for the paragraphs that
>> >> > should have them.
>> >> >
>> >> > If all of that sounds confusing, the chapter "Introduction to
>> >> > Styles" in the Writer Guide might help you; it explain this a lot
>> >> > better, and with examples. You can download a free PDF here:
>> >> > http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors2/0206WG-IntroductionToStyles.pdf
>> >> >
>> >> > If I've misunderstood what you are trying to do, then it's
>> >> > possible that none of the above is relevant.
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards, Jean
>> >> > Jean Hollis Weber
>> >> >
>> >> > ---------
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>> >> > "OOo Writer Guide" from http://www.lulu.com/opendocument
>> >> > Free PDFs are at http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/
>> >>
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