On 07/02/2006, at 8:51 AM, Robin Laing wrote:

Jonathon Coombes wrote:

SNIP!

Yes, reveal codes were great when when we used monitors that came
in green/black colours. When we had serial printers and teletypes that
received 'reveal codes' to set the type of printing style needed.
Styles have replaced this method as we now have WYSIWIG graphics.
That is, if it is bold, you will SEE that it is bold.

The problem with WYSIWYG displays is you see a problem and try to fix the formatting by changing or redoing the style but it doesn't work. Or as I have come across before, you change a style that is only supposed to affect a paragraph but affects a whole document after the edit point because of how the document was put together. This is where reveal codes shine. I have had issues where I wanted to do something but I could not get the cursor in the exact location to achieve what I wanted. This would have been easy with reveal codes.

The main reason changing a style does not work is because somebody has used a "hard" format over it eg hit the bold button, italics etc. rather than using styles. Use the Format > Default Formatting to take away styles and see what hard formats are
still applied.

The styles are designed to work within their specific confines. That is, paragraph styles will affect all paragraphs of that style. If you need it different for only one paragraph, then you should create a new style from the existing one for that
specific paragraph.

It seems to me that the problem is not that styles are a problem, or that reveal codes are needed, it is more that people who use reveal codes do not know the best method for using styles and how they should work. This means they end up using a loose combination of styles and formats and lead themselves into the problem that they
believe reveal codes will fix?

SNIP!
I like styles for what I know but for me, I am in the previous group of allot of one-time items where styles are not that time saving. I need quick formatting that isn't always achievable via styles.

OK. So here is the problem I think. Your quick formatting method is applying hard formatting by simply hitting the icons on the toolbar instead of applying styles ( still usually one click when they exist). This is causing your problems with the
styles not seeming to work properly or consistently.

If there was WordPerfect for Linux again, I would be purchasing it. If StarOffice provided Reveal Codes, I would purchase it. Reveal codes to me is worth money.

I tried WordPerfect for Linux when they had it last time, but it was too flakey.
It kept on dying and doing weird things, it just was not reliable.

Regards
Jonathon

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