On Sun February 12 2006 23:56, + Fratello, Natasha wrote:
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> Dear Open Office:
> I found your site today by visiting
> http://www.masternewmedia.org/2004/04/14/powerpoint_to_flash_conversion_too
>ls.htm
>
> Your projects look to be exciting and useful, and the philosophy of  access
> for all platforms underlying the projects is certainly one I can embrace.
>
> My question to you is whether your Open Office download is useful for a
> specific purpose:  I am converting my power point based lectures (also
> keynote) to Flash, and wish sound and captioning to run with the files.  Is
> your product able to provide that for a Mac OSX user?
>
> I need to provide as much access as possible for all of my community
> college students--some of whom have disabilities and others simply have
> slow, dial-up Internet connections.  Clearly, the .swf files are the best
> for these purposes (Java and QuickTime load too slowly for the dial-up
> connections).  Sound and captioning are crucial as is interactivity:  being
> able to allow students to control navigation, playback speed, hyperlinks,
> etc.  I am already familiar with other products including Flash MX2004
> itself, Keynote (converting the sound files to play in Flash for individual
> slides is cumbersome), and the Windows compatible products--I want to use
> my Mac solely, if possible.
>
> Clearly, if I were to join your community, my contributions would be at the
> end-user side of the spectrum :-)
>
> I look forward to your response, and thank you for your consideration.

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On Mon February 13 2006 15:58, Derick Centeno wrote:
> You might want to consider using NeoOffice which essentially is
> OpenOffice without the reliance upon using X11.  When I use OS X, it is
> always with Neo.  Here's the link to learn more:
>
> http://www.neooffice.org/
>
> Also if you want help regarding using Flash MX, here's a site which
> could be useful:
>
> http://www.flashkit.com/index.shtml
>
> Your institution and community are going to have to become more aware of
> a few facts:
>
> 1: Tools like Flash, Java and so on require an enormous amount of
> processing power and speed.  You may be able to do decent development on
> a G3, but you are really discussing using completed applications which
> should run from a dedicated server.  You will need a server to run these
> tools from so that they are useful and available to your students or
> anyone else with appropriate access to your efforts, from the web.  In
> that sense, staying "Mac only" cuts your capacity for service because
> more complete server and other associated developer packages (to do what
> you wish to do) exist for Linux, Unix, Windows but running on Intel and
> compatibles.  This daunting fact is one of the reasons Apple switched to
> Intel.  If you stay "Mac only" on the developer side, you will have to
> consider Apple's Xserve tools and packages which are not cheap.
> However, purchasing Apple's server can save you hours of development
> time as all the tools are already there.
>
> Just because your server is chosen and operational with the proper high
> bandwidth connections a few T3s or higher if possible, depending on your
> institution's financial support, there is the problem of what the
> student's hardware is and what bandwidth is used at that student's home.
> Although it can be possible to develop a server of reasonable financial
> cost, you have to consider development/programming skills.  The skills
> necessary for programming servers are not the same as the skills
> necessary for programming home based computers known as clients.  If
> your or another's skill level are up to that task ... your intended
> project will have less difficulty.  If not, I'm sure your institution's
> Computer Science Department can send students to assist on this project.
>
> You are probably aware of the above, I mentioned them only as a means of
> assistance for your consideration of what may have been omitted.
>
> Products like Flash MX and others require decent servers from which to
> work and serve data to multiple calls from multiple ports; from the
> client side these applications are optimized to work best and most
> efficiently from Intel based computers.
>
> 2:  From the client side, student's accessing your work (existing on a
> server), the operating system and CPU they use will matter.  For
> instance, a G3 if it is too old cannot run OS X; it and many other PPC
> based Macs will have to remain using the what Apple calls the Classic OS
> -- which really means OS 9 and earlier.  Those Operating Systems are
> very limited and will become more limited in what they can relate with
> on the web.  The way the life of these machines can be extended
> functionally is for their Operating Systems to be switched for a form of
> Linux distribution which will run on that PPC.  This helps, but just
> barely.  Unfortunately Macromedia does not support any version of their
> products so that it runs on a PPC version of Linux.  Yes, this can
> change; it is also possible that humanity will achieve world peace.
>
> There are hackers out there who are working on a modifying Macromedia's
> products so that they do work on the PPC within the Linux platform.  The
> problem will be reliability and consistency of function at the same
> level of performance as though Macromedia itself produced it.  I think
> you can see the legal problems here, for you as institution to even
> consider using such an item, even if it does work.
>
> There did exist a petition to Macromedia (a long time ago, available at
> Macromedia's website) requesting that Macromedia support PPC for Linux
> with a working version of their products.  Macromedia did accept and
> consider requests of this kind.  It hasn't moved on anything significant
> as a solution because the numbers of persons requesting such support is
> not large enough to refocus attention from other projects to one like
> this.  Adobe however, has absorbed/bought Macromedia; it is very
> doubtful that Adobe's management will consider any diversions from their
> established plans.
>
> Here is the link listing which Operating Macromedia -- now Adobe -- does
> support:
>
> http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashplayer/productinfo/systemreqs/flash
>player7/
> http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashplayer/productinfo/systemreqs/
>
> Remember also that products (software) for servers are usually sold; the
> client products are usually free.  A lot of things are Open Source, but
> not everything.
>
> The other solution is for students to switch to Linux based on the Intel
> platform; which Macromedia and other companies DO support.  Any item
> imagined exists within the Intel and compatible based Linux universe
> when compared with Linux on a PPC.  There is a noted speed increase by
> users of Linux both on Intel or PPC.
>
> Assuming the student switches to Linux for Intel, the next issue is
> bandwidth.  A student should be able to get Linux for free or purchase
> it on CDs between $10-50 depending on vendor, taxes, etc.  The Comp.
> Sci. Dept. could be very useful in addressing these concerns.
>
> The problem remains regarding bandwidth which is available at the
> student's home.  However, if the student uses Linux on Intel to access
> your efforts the overall cost to the phone bill should be very small as
> Linux is more efficient than Windows.  Prices regarding bandwidth are
> changing, and fiberoptics are becoming available; eventually dial-up
> will disappear.  Some cellphones do transmit data, and some vendors do
> offer data transmission rates.  That possibility is hampered by the fact
> that dial-up currently is actually faster when compared against that
> media.  This however is a temporary advantage, which may last a shorter
> time than the Pony Express did against the Telegraph.
>
> I sincerely hope your project can move forward.  My concern was that
> these all these other aspects of your project should be considered in
> your evaluations as well.
>

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