Tom Pendleton wrote:
Not surprizingly, the Outlook Express 6 e-mail
operation did not operate.

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I am constantly amazed that Sun and other reputable
groups are associated with Open Office, which has so
many drawbacks that it makes MS Word look good!

If you don't like OpenOffice and don't like MS Word, is there any Word Processor you do like? If so, then of course you can use it. Yet perhaps you just need to become more familiar with OpenOffice to see its virtues. Almost all complex applications have a learning curve and most of us have been frustrated by new applications that won't do things exactly they way we want think they should be done.

Help is basically helpless, and rarely tells the
reader what to do.  When it does, it is often wrong or
at least ineffectual.

OOo Help is sometimes over concise. But I have often used it to my profit. I will return to this point later.

Here are two of the most basic questions, which I
cannot find answers to.

1) How do I set the margins?  The instructions in Help
do not help, not only because they are quite vague,
but what they do say to do does not work.  (I go into
Format, Page, and set the margins, but it has no
effect on the document.)

Format -> Page is effects only the current page (or currently selected pages), not the entire document, unless you have previously selected the entire document. "Page" means Page formatting, not entire "Document" formatting, unless you first select your entire document. OOo Writer is not so primitive as to force the same margins or page settings on an entire document.

A more structured solution is to press F11 to bring up the StyleList, select the fourth icon on the Stylelist toolbar, select the "Default" page style, right-click, select "Modify" and change the margins there.

Also, the current page style appears in the second display box in the status bar at the bottom of an OOo Writer window. Right-clicking on that box provides a list of available pages from which you can select a different Page Style which will be immediately apply to the current page or to the selected pages. Double-clicking on the Page Style box brings up the dialog box for modifying the current page style, including setting margins.

You can create a new default template with the "Default" page style margin settings as you prefer and all future new documents will have the "Default" page style set to those same margin settings. Similarly you can change the margins and other features in the other page styles and include those changes in your default template.

2) How do I change the default font away from the
awful, extremely outdated, Times New Roman?  No matter
what I do, that repulsive typeface keep reappearing as
the default.  I am ready to eliminate it from my list
of fonts, if that is the only way to end its
domination of the default.

Go to Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice.org Writer -> Basic Fonts (Western) to change default Writer fonts at the top level of the style hierarchy.

Changes made here will cascade down.

You can also change them in the Stylelist (accessed via F11). Selecting the first item provides a list of paragraph styles and selecting "Hierarchical" in the list box at the foot of the Stylelist shows clearly the current style hierarchy so that you can see which styles are likely to be affected by any change that you make to a style higher in the hierarchy. The top level paragraph styles are the same paragraph styles listed in Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice.org Write -> Basic Fonts (Western).

Both of these questions are so basic, yet have proven
impossible for me to answer, that it shows how
non-intuitive and difficult to use your product is.

There are not hundreds of people posting these same problems. On the other hand, people, including myself, sometimes have odd difficulties with the most trivial matters.

A difficulty many new users of OOo Writer have is that they skip over anything to do with styles in the help and documentation, as non-essential, as a complexity avoided by them up to know whenever they have encountered it. Unfortunately for this kind of thinking, OOo Writer is very style-based in the way it is set up. And generally, non-style based word processing, web-publishing, and hard-publishing is today mostly considered as clunky and out-of-date as you consider the Times New Roman font to be.

You can, if you wish, provide constructive commentary on the Help files at the main OpenOffice.org site, entering bug comments on the help files, making clear what you found confusing. It is often difficult for someone who knows something well to understand what might confuse a newcomer and constructive criticism is usually appreciated.

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Jallan

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