How are business users managing? Buying MS Office?
Doug.
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:43 pm, Ross Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 13:55 +1100, Ross Johnson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 01:42 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
> > > I am ready to give up, but will try again from the beginning.
> > >
> > > I open a document and click on Insert-> Envelope. My printer settings
> > > are for the envelope to be fed narrow end first, in the centre of the
> > > paper guide, as my LaserJet printer requires. The dialog as it stands
> > > shows an envelope 22 cm wide by 11 cm high in the bold type on the gray
> > > background. I choose "New Doc." That gives me a screen showing the
> > > outline of the envelope with a blank strip 5 cm high added at the top,
> > > and separated by a line similar to the lines drawing the outline. For
> > > those 5 cm the ruler in the L.H. margin is gray. The two together
> > > suggest that the 5 cm is a top margin. The cursor is in the top L.H.
> > > corner of the active area. As you say, the "From:" area is about 1 cm
> > > down from the cursor.
> > >
> > > My problem is that the envelope then prints in landscape mode narrow
> > > side first, but with a margin from the top of the envelope of the
> > > amount of the margin mentioned above. The page looks - and prints - as
> > > if it were a sheet of paper 22 cm by 16 cm, with a top margin of 5 cm,
> > > but no bottom or side margins. In practice, the sender address is a
> > > further 5 cm down from the top, and the address is somewhere near the
> > > bottom. This looks unprofessional, and it doesn't comply with our Post
> > > Office requirements.
> > >
> > >From your description and GRS's confirmation, it's as if the margin is
> >
> > being added twice. Why this doesn't show up when either printed or
> > exported to PDF I don't know (I see in Adobe Reader what I expect to see
> > - the 5cm then 1cm then sender address).
> >
> > Bugs aside, to get it working now, did you try selecting the far right
> > layout icon (the one with the envelope up against the right hand side of
> > the sheet), and adjust the "Shift down" amount to create a margin
> > smaller than the 5cm? Some trial and error may get it to work.
>
> I went to the other side and ran OOo2.0.2 on Windows for another
> purpose. While I was there I saw what GRS saw. I also tried the other
> print layout options and they all seem to ignore the layout and the
> shift down values completely and just assume the envelope is aligned
> hard bottom (in landscape mode), or hard left (when facing the direction
> of feed).
>
> So after inserting the envelope in a new document, I tried using Format
> - Page to put in a bottom margin (and remove the top margin). Then I
> manually shifted the address frames up by a corresponding amount. That
> finally resulted in something that looks like it could work.
>
> The question is, is it even worth it to use Insert - Envelope.
>
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