On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:11 -0500, Immanuel CRC Office wrote: > Ross Johnson wrote: > > On Sat, 2006-03-11 at 09:16 +0000, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > >>> Ross Johnson wrote: > >>>> On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 09:16 -0700, Solveig L Haugland wrote: > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> > >>>>> I've got a blog on how to center text vertically on a page with a text > >>>>> box. > >>>>> http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2005/12/centering_text_.html > >>>> Did you notice that, with both the draw frame (and the same applies for > >>>> the table idea), you had to size one or both dimensions? I.e. the table > >>>> needed vertical height set; the draw frame needed both vertical and > >>>> horizontal. Now what happens when the document page format is changed? > >>>> E.g. from portrait to landscape, or from A4 to Letter? > >>> [cut] > >>> > >>> I give in! The conversion of page formats hadn't occurred to me and, > >>> given that possibility, I agree that a centred frame is the 'pure' (and > >>> optimum) tool to use. > >>> > >>> Peter HB > >>> > >> What is the RFE number please. I will add my votes. > > > > An RFE isn't needed. Everything you need to do this is in OOo already, > > and uses only natural ingredients. If you're referring to the interest > > expressed earlier in an RFE to add vertical text centring in frames, > > that isn't necessary, and I don't think it would work as a general > > feature anyway. > > > > If you can tolerate yet more on this subject, here is how it's done - > > either anchored relative within the document or fixed to a specific > > page, with text flowing past it: > > > > You start with a frame this is centred on the page vertically and > > horizontally, and has 'Automatic' width and 'Autosize' height, so that > > the frame shrinks or expands to fit the text. With these settings there > > is no notion of top, centre, or bottom alignment to worry about. > > > > If you want the text in the frame to be the only text on the page, > > precede the frame with a page break, and add another one after (see > > example 1 below). The frame should be anchored to the paragraph between > > the breaks so that it will move relative within the document. Don't > > anchor the frame to the page. > > > > If you want the frame to always be on a specific page (see example 2 > > below), you should use the Wrap options and spacing to exclude other > > content from that page. Wrap before/after spacing can total a little > > over 43 cm, so 21cm before and after will effectively exclude everything > > from the page. Before and after spacing does not extend beyond the > > logical page, so this way you can still change the page format and not > > have to adjust frame size attributes to fix everything afterwards. > > > > You may find that setting the Wrap option and the before/after spacing > > works just as well as page breaks. I don't know - I'll try it - it's an > > option I suppose. > > > > Step by step example 1: > > I want 'Hello world' centred H and V on the page, so that 'Hello world' > > is the only text on that page. I want that page to be relative to the > > other content of the document, i.e. to move if I add or delete enough > > content ahead of this page. > > > > 1 - type Ctrl+Enter twice to insert two page breaks (only one is needed > > if the centred frame is on the first or last page). > > 2 - position the text cursor at the paragraph between the page breaks > > (i.e at the top of the [first] blank page just inserted in step 1). > > 3 - Insert - Frame > > 4 - in the Frame properties, set 'Centre' for both H and V, and relative > > to 'Page text' for both. > > 5 - choose 'Automatic' for H size and 'Autosize' for V size. > > 6 - anchor the frame to Paragraph (the default). > > 7 - set other attributes like borders etc. > > 8 - add text to the frame, and centre align the paragraph if you like. > > > > Now, if you add sufficient new content before the page containing the > > frame, the frame [containing text] will automatically jump to the next > > page and remain centred. > > > > Step by step example 2: > > I want the same text etc. but this time I want the frame to stay on a > > specific page and the rest of the document to flow past it. > > > > 1 - position the text cursor in that page. > > 2 - use steps 3, 4 and 5 above to create the frame. > > 3 - anchor the frame to Page. > > 4 - set Wrap to 'None' and set the before and after spacing to 21.5cm > > (almost the maximum possible). > > 5 - do steps 7 and 8 as above to finish. > > > > Now if you add new content before the page containing the frame, content > > will flow past the frame page. > > > > > > Russ: > > This is okay to do, but the problem then is added when you open a Word > doc with page centered vertically: does it add all these frames? When > you export OOo doing this, how does it work in Word? > > I think that should maybe be part of the discussion.
A text frame is an 'official' layout device so the OOo export filters should be able to interpret the intended positioning unambiguously. The same is true for the table and draw frame, unless the page text area size changes due to page format, changes in headers, footers, footnote regions etc. e.g. due to slight changes in font sizes due to font substitutions. If the page text area changes then the manually sized (in height at least) draw frames and tables will need adjustment or the text will no longer be centred, not to mention other unintended effects could be introduced. The text frame text should remain properly centred (in theory). It would be interesting to know how the OOo import filters convert vertically centred pages from .doc files. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
